On 2/19/07, Drew Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't intend to establish a line. Judgement is needed, perhaps case by case.
That still doesn't help the user who doesn't know what your decision was.
What I said, in an earlier mail, was this:
I know. I've said that I know what you were arguing for.
Good question, and one that I raised in response to Eli's mail.
Excuse me for not reading the threads in the order that would be more convenient to you ;-)
Maybe we should say explicitly that all code should be downloaded using a Unicode encoding - I don't know.
I'm not sure *we* should do it, in the sense that people who downloads code from their browser is bound to learn sooner or later that it is a bad idea to ignore encodings.
We will have to live with it, until the world (including Emacs ;-)) is Unicode through and through.
Not doing anything is a way to "live wit it". Making it easier for the user to continue to ignore the issue is not helpful, long term.
Our best recourse, at least in this transitional period, is to be aware of the potential gotchas and use our best judgement to help users avoid problems. That's all; I don't have a better suggestion than that. Maybe someone else does.
I agree. I just don't think the problem of people downloading a wrong copy of buff-menu.el is really pressing. I'd say most people gets Emacs in full, either from a source tarball, a binary package or CVS.
No, the fix for the problem that I reported is to use an escape sequence in buff-menu.el.
I was referring, obviously, to the general problem, not the specific buff-menu.el issue. You say that you weren't talking about the general problem, so let's leave it at that.
This sideline discussion (this problem that you are apparently struggling with, and that you think I am struggling with)
Oh, I assure you that I'm not struggling with any Emacs problem right now, other than restlessly waiting for Emacs 22 to be released.
We can at least do what we can to prevent that problem from arising in no-brainer cases such as buff-menu.el.
No comment, as I already said I don't mind this specific case.
It's just common sense. And replacing two em-dash characters with \u2014 is hardly making "extraordinary efforts".
No. Taking the time to discuss a change that should, in an ideal world, be unnecessary and even ill-advised, and also the time do think where to draw the line, is an extraordinary ("beyond what is ordinary or usual", not "highly unusual or exceptional or remarkable") effort.
It does, however, sometimes seem to take extraordinary efforts to get the slightest suggestion across to change something, even something trivial, in the Emacs code.
Your (everybody's) trivial is other people's bad idea, sometimes.
As with all bug reports, it's up to you whether you want to consider this a bug and, if so, whether you want to fix it, and how.
I bow to others in that collective "you". Juanma _______________________________________________ emacs-pretest-bug mailing list emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-pretest-bug