Eli Zaretskii wrote:
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 03:14:13 +0200
From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org

Then what arguments are actually convincing to you?

Did you ever managed release of some software product, Lennart?
Because if you didn't, then there's really no way we could convince
you, since you lack a significant experience of having to decide what
needs to be fixed before the release and what's after it.

Of course experience is good. Did I ever say something else? Or why did you say the above?


I know that both Kim and Chong hesitate to do the changes now. My argument is not that I do not trust them. I try to look at the actual changes and estimate the chances that it can go wrong.

This estimation on the one hand, and the estimated seriousness of the
bug on the other, is the fundamental issue.

We are getting closer to a serious discussion, thanks.

If you cannot see how the
former is much larger than the latter, then we have no real basis for
a reasonable discussion.

And now you are leaving it again.

That's because everyone else but you look at this issue at a
fundamentally different level.  You look at the details, but no amount
of details will ever lead you to the bigger picture--that we need to
release soon, and that Emacs is ready for that.

And now you have left it totally. Instead of asking me you say that I am thinking in a certain way. If you discuss that way you will always "win" a discussion.

If you please separate my opinion from my arguments it will be much nicer.


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