Daniel Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/9/00 8:07:09 AM >>>
> It's probably worth noting that after a long time of being busy (and
> a little lazy) I am going to get an update to the documentation done
> I hope to post an updated texi file with much better `getting
> started' material real soon now.
That would be great, except it'd also be nice to post a .info file for
those of us without the conversion utility. (I gotta setup Cygwin,
after the semester gets going), and HTML for the rest of the world.
And perhaps you should setup a CVS server first--
Joe Stoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/21/99 1:22:14 PM >>>
> I believe my changes to rcp.el do not break things that worked
> already, so I hope they can be incorporated in the standard version
> -- but of course that's up to Kai.
> I've parked the things I've changed in
> ftp://ftp.comlab.ox.ac.uk/tmp/Joe.Stoy/
> for the time being, together with diff files. I'll try to put a
> README file there soon, with a word or two of explanation; but email
> me if you need help more urgently. To generate keys, etc. you'll
> need to get the rest of the ssh distribution from a site such as
> that given above; and you'll need some stuff from
<snip>
> the cygwin library and (on NT systems) an /etc/passwd file created
> by a cygwin utility (to mirror the information in NT's registry).
It'd be nice if this HOWTO (to use the Linux term) was multiplatform.
Unfortunately the NT doc will require a bit more work, since it also
kinda requires linking or inlining the Cygwin process. (Since I gotta
do that anyway, I'd be willing to write, or hopefully merely test and
edit, that part of the documentation.)
Please all proceed with what you're doing, but long-term it'd probably
be good to make the process more collaborative to allow better
division of labor. Just think of all the Mac users that will soon be
pestering you, now that (IIRC) OS X ships with Emacs !-)
Some things I recommend for inclusion in the HOWTO:
* > in your .emacs, make sure that you have `(require 'rcp)' /after/
> `(require 'ange-ftp)'. Make sure that you *do* have the require for
> ange-ftp as well...
* Compare/contrast "inline" and "out-of-band." For that matter, come
up with better synonyms :-)
* Clarify that "r" is a cookie.
>> What role does the lower case "r" play. Is it another indication of
>> a METHOD?
> All rcp.el file names begin with `/r@' or `/r:'. After all, Emacs has
> to have some way to recognize how to invoke rcp.el!
I also was confused by this.
* Discuss rsync
Kai Gro�johann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/9/00 7:13:48 AM >>>
> Maybe the rsync method is actually faster than the scp method, but the
> real advantage of rsync happens when both the source and the target
> files already exist and they differ only slightly. Since rsync only
> transfers the difference, transfer is faster.
> Alas, rcp.el is implemented such that the remote file is transferred
> to a new, empty, temporary file on the local host. Since the target
> file does not exist, rsync cannot just transfer the difference.
This would be good to include, for those of us who'd never heard of
rsync.
* Kai Gro�johann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/9/00 7:13:48 AM >>>
> Exactly. If you choose scp1 as rcp-default-method, typing
> /r:user@host:/path/to/file
> is the same as typing
> /r@scp1:user@host:/path/to/file
> only shorter. rcp-default-method is just a way to abbreviate file
> names.
I guessed this, but IMHO it would be good to include this.
* ... and
Kai Gro�johann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/9/00 7:13:48 AM >>>
> A short, maybe overly simplified, description of ssh-agent:
This would also be nice. (I suspect this is tiresome for many of you,
but I again must whine) Is there one for Win32?
* ... which brings up the subject of Win32 support
>> * Does emacs-rcp work with NT Emacs? I'm currently using GNU Emacs
>> 20.4.1 (i386-*-nt4.0.1381) of Thu Jul 15 1999 on gridlock
Joe Stoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/21/99 1:22:14 PM >>>
> I believe my changes to rcp.el do not break things that worked
> already, so I hope they can be incorporated in the standard version
> -- but of course that's up to Kai.
What's the status of this?
Dunno what I can do to help--at least I can test the documentation for
"idiot-proof-ness" :-)
TIA, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
