On Jan 25, 2010, at 19:21, Olivier Scherler wrote:

> Speaking of AppleScript, John has a very solid point. I am a programmer. It 
> means I can program, I even like it. It does not mean I only want to use 
> applications made for or only useable by programmers. I don't want to have to 
> program my way out of everything I do on a computer.

+1. 

I don't want my email to be one of the complicated things i have to deal with 
every day.  Coincidently that explains why I use Mail at home (forced into 
Outlook at work).  Letters' ultimate goal should be to match, enhance, and 
exceed Mail's feature set, without resorting to a dozen plugins and drifting 
into Plugin Hell.  

Complexity is not a vice.  It can make apps difficult to use (I want to 
sack-punch whoever did the Preferences for Xcode), but it can also make for 
some spectacular apps (Safari isn't a "simple" application.  Nor is iChat)  
Their purposes may be simple, but Safari is getting to have a helluva feature 
set; it has all but replaced Firefox in my occasional web development needs, 
and I don't have to have 5 plugins installed and updated and patched for it to 
work.

To keep Caio from having an anerysm, it boils down to: nobody says you have to 
have EVERY FEATURE we have speculated about functional.  But they do need to be 
THOUGHT about, and perhaps framing code put in place in the core to help 
advance those features later.  But the "we'll make it a plugin" approach is 
folly.  Plugins are for extending the application in minor ways, tweaking 
functionality if you will, they are not for implementing functionality.

Ok, I'll shut up now.  Promise.

-nick
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