On 1/29/10 1:07 PM, "Lachlan Hunt" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> No, font selection certainly does not need to be present in the composer >>> to handle that, and many other use cases. >>> >>> The following markup illustrates precisely how you can achieve the >>> effect you want, without having to have any font selection for the user. >> >> <Stuff that so misunderstands how non programmers work that it makes my head >> hurt to look at it snipped.> >> >> So your solution to html editing is to require people to CODE RAW HTML IN A >> TEXT EDITOR? > > I'm not exactly sure what it is about my e-mail was so unclear, that it > led you to that conclusion. Obviously, I'm not suggesting for users of > this application to hand code HTML to do e-mails. Rather, I was > illustrating what the HTML composer could output independent of how the > user entered it into the composition window. If you aren't getting your message across, try writing more clearly. > Similarly, when they type the last paragraph after the <pre>, the user > would turn off preformatted mode and the editor would switch back to a > <p> element. This could also work for other things like headings, > lists, bold, italic, etc. And again, what if they wish to actually use a different font. Because they're all friggin' crazy, stupid, and want to kill email. Which will evidently happen if you allow font choice. What font will you force upon all Letters users, since changing a font is unacceptable. What size will you allow them to use, since that is evidently unacceptable too. > >>> If you load that up into a web browser, you'll see that the paragraphs >>> are rendered in a sans-serif font and the code is rendered in monospace, >>> and it was all achieved *without* any user editable font families or sizes. >> >> You don't deal much with non-geeks, do you. > > Seriously, I think you need to watch your tone on mailing lists. Seriously, if you want to scold someone, reproduce. That's what your children are for. If you want to try to re-define "power user" to mean "Programmers and programmers only" and suggest stuff that is just silly, you can just deal with people pointing that out in a way that you may not like. > >>> If a user wants that to be presented in a bigger font in the compose, >>> all they have to do is zoom, just like you can do in your browser. >>> Zooming does not change the font size specified in the stylesheet, just >>> the size that it's rendered at. >> >> So you don't like allowing wysiwyg editors, but you want people to use STYLE >> SHEETS FOR EMAIL. > > Yes, using a stylesheet in HTML is the correct way to apply styles. > Using other alternatives like <font> elements is not. I'm not > suggesting that the user has to type the stylesheet themselves, that can > be done by the composer. Oh, and will the user be allowed to change that stylesheet? Which version of CSS? Will they be able to add CSS transforms so they can do scrolling text? It's funny, how I, the person who is, from what I can tell, ADVOCATING THE END OF EMAIL recoils in HORROR at the idea of overcomplicating the composer to where you have to use STYLE SHEETS. Ye. Gods. -- John C. Welch Writer/Analyst Bynkii.com Mac and other opinions [email protected] _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list List help: http://lists.ranchero.com/listinfo.cgi/email-init-ranchero.com
