Well, thanks for all the info/insight.

- I still "dislike" Microsoft (everything pretty much about MS).

- I will wait for EmailerX.  When it's available, I will buy it.


Oh well, since you don't want those chips, I guess one day it will go 
into a trash can and get emptied out.

You have a good one!
Stay Cool!
Shenan



>07/27/2005 11:45 AM chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>>Where do I send some CPU chip to you?  I have some of the chips that I 
>>keep looking at them, and they look cool, but I don't know and have no 
>>use of them.  They are Pentium chips, 486, 68x40, EPROM, Apple boot ROM, 
>>PC BIOS, G3 raw cpu, PPC cpu, and many others that I don't know what they 
>>are for but if I find them, they are yours.  So, if you want to give me 
>>your mailing/shipping address, I can pack up a box and ship all those to 
>>you that I know I won't do anything with them besides just looking at 
>>them.  I believe all of them work, except I don't need them.
>
>I have no need for them, nor the storage space to hold them... so don't 
>worry about sending them to me.
>
>>Chris, did you know that ever since Microsoft bought $300 million worth 
>>of Apple stock (MS made a bundle out of that deal) back then (don't 
>>remember which year), all the machines shipped from Apple has this 
>>strange arrangement of file icons in the "Internet" folder?
>
>I believe the number was $100 million of stock (which they then sold for 
>something like $300 million). And yes, making IE and Outlook Express the 
>default web browser and email client for the Mac OS was part of the deal. 
>No one ever said it wasn't. In fact, it was fully admitted to.
>
>MS bought $100 million of Apple stock as a show of faith in Apple 
>Computer. They also agreed to continue to update and support MS Office 
>for the Mac for no less than 5 years. In exchange, Apple agreed to call 
>off the lawyers they had been sicking on MS for years, and make Outlook 
>Express the default email client and Internet Explorer the default web 
>browser.
>
>As to the positioning of the icons in the folders, I'm sure that was the 
>finer points of the deal as hashed out by the lawyers after the fact. I'm 
>sure it wasn't by accident that IE and Outlook were up front and obvious 
>and everything else was hidden away.
>
>But that doesn't change the fact that Claris was NOT killed to keep MS 
>happy. Nothing Claris was doing mattered to MS. MS didn't care if 
>MacWrite continued or Emailer, or MacDraw, or MacPaint, or Hypercard or 
>ClarisWorks. Oddly, the one application MS did care about was FileMaker 
>Pro, and that continued along without a problem.
>
>Everything else that was killed off was done so for money reasons. The 
>other products were just not profitable and served no strategic point to 
>keeping alive (like ClarisWorks did). Emailer was killed simply because 
>there was no profit in keeping it alive. The fact that it would go up 
>against Mail.app was just the nail in its coffin.
>
>Apple knew the direction they were heading. It was OS X. And in order to 
>keep Emailer alive, MAJOR work would need to be done to make it OS X 
>native. Plus legal headaches over things like the AOL gateway. Emailer 
>was simply going to cost them far too much money to keep it alive. There 
>was no shot of it having a good return on its investment.
>
>On the other hand, NeXTStep already had a nice email client... it was 
>called Mail. It ported nicely to OS X (I ran it originally on the OS X 
>for Intel build I had WAY WAY back before OS X was released to the 
>public, back when it was pretty much NeXTStep with an Apple Menu). Mail 
>let them break away from the old and embrace the new.
>
>Honestly, MS had nothing to do with Emailer being killed. All MS wanted 
>was Outlook to be the default email client, and they got that... from 
>there, they didn't care in the least if Emailer was still supported, 
>sold, bundled or otherwise.
>
>>Oh well, now you get to work on the "i-KrisMailer" program that we all 
>>will be using in the future now, you hear?
>
>Nope, very doubtful anyone here will be using whatever email client I 
>write. I won't be writing it for public use. It will be heavily tweaked 
>to serve my needs. Best case I may release parts of it as GNU and people 
>may be able to pick it up that way... but I can't even say for sure that 
>will happen.
>
>If you want an OS X replacement for Emailer, then you need to keep an eye 
>on the EmailerX project instead. There are a few people from this group 
>that are working on an OS X native replacement (I've dropped out of the 
>project due to a conflict of interest. It wasn't fair for me to 
>participate when the plans are to make EmailerX a commercial product, and 
>I have plans to write my own client that may or may not be released as 
>open source. There would be too much of a risk of me accidentally 
>stealing ideas from the EmailerX project and thus possibly hurting their 
>market... so I dropped out to be fair to them, and for my own 
>protection... by not being involved with EmailerX I can honestly say 
>anything I do was my own idea.)
>
>-chris
><http://www.mythtech.net>
>
>

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