On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:49 PM, Karl Winkelmann wrote:

A while ago I remembered about this company and also that Chris had
written a Mail Action & patch for CE (I have it if anyone needs it), so I
thought I might get on board as I had noticed that SpamSieve has a
checkbox for the Habeas safelist, but when I inquired from them they
wanted all sorts of server information and well as quantity of mail, etc,
etc.  It seems like the free, single user licence has gone away.

Regarding its effectiveness I can't comment as I was not able to use it. I will see if I can dig up the email they sent me in reply to my inquiry.

I just checked their website out, and they stopped using the haiku system that I wrote the patch for.

Turns out they under estimated just how scummy spammers can be, and how hard it is to catch them. They say they stopped using the haiku after they successfully sued a few spammers, but then the onslaught of spammers using the haiku was too much for them to keep up with and sue every one of them. So they switched to a new system.

Sounds about like what I expected to happen with them. I recall when talking with them originally, I got the impression they were a group of lawyers that thought like lawyers... ie: everyone is afraid of getting sued and so after the first few people make the mistake, others will all steer clear.

Alas, when it comes to online stuff, no one is afraid of being sued, and all suing someone does is teaches the next guy how better to not get caught. Spammers fear nothing and use hit and run tactics so they are darn hard to track down and keep up with.

I had a feeling from the early days that this is exactly what would happen. Their haiku would be abused so quickly and by people that there was no way to track, that it would dilute it to the point of being ineffective.

I didn't read into their new system, so I can't speak for how it works or how well it works.

I can say that between adding ASSP to my mail server, and using Mail's junk mail filters on my home machine, it has brought spam down to a point that is deal-able. Thunderbird has similar junk mail controls as Mail does.

-chris
<www.mythtech.net>


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