Bea writes, <Its a Mac OS X laptop with OS 9 (Classic). >
Yes, but which one? Is it a Lombard or Pismo Powerbook? Is it an iBook? And if it is an iBook, is it a G3/500? G3/800? G3/900? Or is it one of the G4 iBooks with a 1-gig or more processor? See, as the owner of a G3/800 iBook, it would be just as truthful for me as it is for you to say, "I have a Mac OS X laptop with OS 9 Classic," but that doesn't tell anybody who might want to make reasonable suggestions as to which Mac laptops you could get as a cheap backup spare but would still be able to do your most important stuff while your "real" one is getting fixed. And also if you ever post to a Mac list with technical issues you're having, the other listers are going to need to know WHAT MODEL your "Mac OS X laptop with OS 9 Classic" actually IS, in order to be able to help you better. Sometimes even just saying "OS X" isn't enough, they need to know if you're on Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger or Leopard, even to the rev. In my case that's Tiger 10.4.9. Oh, never mind me, I've been hanging around on all those LEM lists for waaaayyyy toooo looong! ;-) <This happened as a result of loading an application for a new HP printer, using technical support at Hewlett Packard (located in Canada). I was told later it was because the driver software that came with the new printer had been on the shelf too long (at Costco). The creash altered my desktop, the font was affected and the instead of a plain background it loaded a picture from my library. I tried to change it in the appropriate place but it wouldn't do it. > Um wait -- DRIVER SOFTWARE has a SHELF LIFE?! You mean drivers are like milk, say, which spoils around the time it reaches the expiration date?! :-O I've never heard of any such thing -- hey CE listers, have any of YOU heard of this before? Crashes from wrong or buggy drivers, yes, but "on the shelf too long?" Bea, if THAT'S what they told you was the reason for your crash -- until someone in here tells me different, I think you were dealing with "techies" who didn't know what they were talking about. <The Apple software had to be re-loaded. They recovered the desktop stuff but it was Claris that was affected! I had to rely on the techie to put Claris together - it is in such a mess - nothing seems to be where it should. I thought in OSX/OS9 Classic that there should be two folders in Applications. There are 26 items in the Applications folder - but no OS X folder or OS 9 folder (where Claris should reside!). I did a Spotlight Search and found all the Claris Folders and there are quite a few! Finally one that was being used according to the dates and I assumed that was the relevant one that I backed up! Thats where I am at the moment.> Oh, you poor thing -- but for the future, there is a fix for this -- when you get a chance, organize the contents of your Mac so YOU know where everything is. Bea, you do NOT have to accept where your Mac puts your applications, either in OS 9 or OS X. You can put them in places where you will be able to find them. I've been doing that since I bought my first Mac in 1995. The ONLY apps I ever kept in the Mac Applications folder were the system ones for the OS. All my other apps, including third party ones, are kept in folders I created in a "specific functions" type of organization system. That is, Internet apps (including CE) are all in a particular folder I made to keep them in; games are in yet another folder, word processing/snail mail stuff like my label program has its own folder, and so on. Files generated by these apps are also in those folders, so if I wanted to find, say, a letter I wrote in 1997, I can find it pretty fast. I very rarely use Spotlight (and I didn't use Sherlock, or "Find" very often either, back in the day) because I know where all my stuff is -- on ALL my Macs. I use the same, as my BF described it, "encryption scheme," on all of them. I only use the searches on the rare occasion I'm just too darn LAZY to open bunches of subfolders to get at something, not because the search programs are my only way to find things (especially applications I use frequently!). But not knowing where CE is?! All I can say is, "OMG, how could THAT happen?!" You only NEED to have TWO CE folders -- the one which is your active in-use folder, and the backup of it you make (and update) elsewhere (in your case from what you mentioned previously, on the flash drive) -- by dragging and dropping as I've mentioned. ...and if the printer driver business blew up your Mac to the point where you needed to reinstall the OS's -- why do you need a techie for THAT? An archive-reinstall from your OS X DVD and a clean reinstall from your OS 9 CD to get back your Classic can be a time consuming PITA, yes, but otherwise it's easy. You already have the disks, and best of all -- you don't have to take your machine apart! ~Yersinia. ________ "Why buy shampoo when real poo is still free?" ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe send a mail message with a SUBJECT line of "unsubscribe" to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

