On 03/19/2014 03:50 AM, Ed Simmons wrote:
> Is there any meet-in-the-middle between the touch off Z 
> every time approach and having tool changer with 
> repeatable tool length?
First, you NEED repeatable tool length.  So, there is the 
Tormach tool system
(expensive) and using end mill holders (also a bit 
expensive, but you can
get used holders if you have a common spindle taper).  So, 
the whole
idea is that collets don't repeat the tool position, but 
several tool holder
systems do.

Once you have some system where you can put a tool back in
repeatably, then you just need a way to measure the tool length.
There are a couple schemes.  I built a replica R-8 taper on 
the lathe
so I could measure tools.
http://pico-systems.com/preset.html
This allows me to measure a "reference tool" and then 
measure every
tool's length difference from that reference tool.  You can 
then enter
the length of the reference tool as zero in the tool table, 
and all
others you enter the length DIFFERENCE from the reference tool.
Then, when setting up, you touch-off the reference tool as zero,
and all other tools will have the right length when they are 
used.

But, I don't use this scheme much, in fact I haven't used it in
years.  Because I find it MUCH simpler to swap the workpiece
and do all work with the first tool on every piece first, then
change tools and set the Z, and do all work with that tool.

Jon

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