On Thursday 30 June 2016 17:18:00 Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:

> On 06/30/2016 01:53 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > You guys all know I don't mind loseing a drop or two of virtual
> > blood while running the bleeding edge stuff, but other than expenses
> > like this, I don't mind playing the part of the canary in WV cal
> > mine.
> >
> > gcode pgm attached.  May be buggy...
> >
> > LinuxCNC version: 2.8.0-pre1-2239-gb97a7ca, axis interface, Dell
> > Dimension 745 computer, 5i25 interface card.
>
> 2.8.0-pre1-2239 is just after the JA merge, so huge thanks for test it
> and reporting on what you find.  This is the first step to getting
> bugs fixed.
>
> > lathe. Seeing that it isn't cutting quite like I wanted, I have hit
> > the stop button, or the esc key twice today. It takes a while to
> > stop from either key, noticeable second+ lag before everything gets
> > quiet.  And 10+ seconds or more to get the screen unghosted.  And as
> > the screen is unghosted, the DRO will jump to bogus values for all 3
> > axis's but so far has not exceeded the range of the program.
>
> I also saw something like this problem on 2.8.0-pre1-2239.  I recorded
> my observations here:
>
> https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/96
>
Thats a different kettle of fish, or sure seems so to me, Sebastian.

> > But just about the time I am clicking on file->edit button, I hear a
> > snap crackle pop from the machine, so I look over at it and find its
> > driving Z another random amount, might be up 5% of the time, might
> > even include x or y or both, but 95% its z down, minimum observed
> > DRO value after I get it stopped was -0.140tysomething but was
> > -0,450tysomething once while cutting air to make sure I was seeing
> > what was going on after I had made trash out of a SC mill with about
> > 15 minutes use on it,  For the second time today.
> >
> > Twice in my air cutting just now, this slow creep at maybe f2 speeds
> > has also moved the x or y too.
> >
> > Do I need to call ghostbusters? :)
>
> Yikes!  I'm sorry that happened.  I never saw any unexpected machine
> motion in my testing, what you saw is way worse.
>
> I'll be looking into this bug.

See what you get with a simulated stuck key. I just recalled after the 
last instance that the form fitting swarf cover on that keyboard was 
holding the esc key at an odd angle, and lifting that corner of the 
cover allowed it to pop back up to level.  Lack of a keyup from the 
keyboard can do strange things.  Sure, it does a decent job of keeping 
the swarf caused jams under control, but I'm beginning to think about 
exploring some sort of lube as it sticks to the vertical sides of the 
keys and may be creating more problems than its preventing.  The 
stickage reminds me of jo's blocks.  Logitech k-360 keyboards at least 
have keytops with vertical sides, so they don't jam down near as often 
as a tapered sided key where the swarf follows the key down and wedges 
it down.  And the air hose will NOT clear that SOB.

Other keyboards might, probably will do differently, but the stuck key 
test could also be informative.

Now, I need to go see if my lady needs a nose bag, I sure do.  After 
that, I'll go rip off that cover & retest in air.  And if that was it, 
we may be able to call in the dogs on this one.  You should hear one way 
or the other in 2 or 3 hours.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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