On Tuesday 18 April 2017 07:38:22 andy pugh wrote: > On 18 April 2017 at 09:55, Chris Morley <[email protected]> wrote: > > it's really disappointing the debacle of GTK2 and 3. > > Yes. I like what we can do with GladeVCP but the fact is that there > seems to be absolutely no support to be had at all. > I had a problem with pyGTK and got no reply at all on the mailing > list, or on their IRC, or even sending emails to the professional > developers listed on the pyGTK home page under "consulting" > > The pygtk email list archives are here: > http://mailman.daa.com.au/cgi-bin/pipermail/pygtk/ You will see that > it is a write-only medium.
Such does seem to be discouraging, Andy. Are we as a group, destined to develop our own version of a gui helper? The things we need seem to be of zero interest to the crowd of what I call "drive by" coders for lack of a more descriptive term. They were for the most part, scratching an itch of their own, and once sufficiently scratched, the key is twisted and down the road they go, leaving no means of obtaining any support when a linked library is "cleaned up" by someone else scratching their own personal itch. The problem as I see it, is 100% TANSTAAFL. pyvcp seems to be the longest surviving gui dialect, and I have to assume it is 100% our own groups code, not having encountered it elsewhere to my knowledge, but it has some lacks. But the fact that a function can still be coded and made to work, such as Kurt's "units" that I was chasing recently, is an example of what some of us can do when we have an itch. So I would suggest that all of us should be contributing to the wiki so that WE will have our own support, filling in the gaps in pyvcp until we have all of our itches scratched. 'twill never happen of course because each new feature opens up the possibility of doing even more, so there is yet another itch to scratch. The wiki seems to be a victim of not enough TLC. It seriously needs a whats new category that links to the most recent 20 commits as that would bring the gems to our attention w/o having to concoct a search string. I _should_ be working on separating out my jog dial code so that it becomes a postgui hal file and its matching .xml file, and get that committed to the wiki. But with all its comments just so I can track it myself, its likely to be close to 500 LOC. More than the hal file itself without the jogging. One more module to swap out, and make Kurts "units" switch the jog increments to metric with another mult2, then some cut and paste (I hope) should realize that. But first, make some swarf with it as I don't have a working spindle crank. Bearings s/b be here later today (according to amazon's web page)... Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Emc-developers mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers
