On Samstag, 4. April 2020, 13:40:29 CEST theman whosoldtheworld wrote:
> and frankly the stubbornness in insisting on only and forever and absolutely
> everything opensources with the maximum license level such as to make it
> impossible to use commercially
> .... is simply a thing of the past millennium.

may be you don't know debian.

... and as linuxcnc is almoust migrating to Qt, debian is not the only pitfall 
on going commercial ;)

Debian is - first of all - the one and only linux, that is reliable and stable 
- over many years. That's based on the rules, that make out debian world.
The original packages are the same as in other linux variants, but debian 
folks work on stability of the whole system. Therefore "stable" is never 
"brand-new".
I don't know any other system (commercial or not), that is that stable and 
reliable.
... and I tried almoust any linux flavour (and its commercial ancestors) and 
I'm happy with debian for more than 15 years already.

The non-free license packages are part of the debian world too and can be 
selected from the installer. Its all available, but has to be choosen 
manually.
For me, that's fine. I enable that option and will never be bothered about 
licenses again.

... and debian packages work for any debian variant, whereas packages from 
ubuntu or mint or whatever are likely to fail on pure debian systems.
Ubuntu for example has fixed rollout dates in calendar, so they roll out even 
with vital showstoppers discovered. That might break your working machines.
Debian says: its ready, when its ready - and they work on problems til they 
are solved. Even major version upgrades work without problems.

So to choose debian as platform for a long running software (in terms of time) 
is quite a good choice (in my way of thinking).

On the other side, the recommendations for new users to work with a rip 
installation does not fit the debian world at all. This habbit might fit 
ret-hat 
or gentoo flavours, but debian is (and should be) different.
But to enable that, much more work has to be spent on release and package 
testing.
That's not possible for one developer, who spents his sparetime for project 
work.

> However I am not an inuxcnc developer ... so mine is only a shadow of
> opinion.

Same is true for me :)


cheers Reinhard






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