I have attacked this in two parts both of which are part of the purchase specification through the drawings provided to the vendor during bid or order. The drawing specifies the material and the flammability, and for those parts that are not just decorative and are relied upon for fire enclosure the vendor is required to be part of the recognized plastics molder program. My position is that the requirements spelled out by the drawings form a legal contract between the vendor and my company. The requirement for being a molder gives me a little more leverage with the FUS inspectors, (it is their own program after all) and gives me a little more assurance that the part is meeting the specification in two - albeit small -- ways. The FUS group wanders into the molders factory on occasion and at least locates any glaring errors in their process; that they are not using 100% regrind or adding cellulose nitrate or something else as a binder to the raw material which would reduce the flammability properties and that they can verify that they are building parts to the documentation that describes it. Even if it is not my part that is being inspected at the time the vendors manufacturing process is being spot checked and is apparently working. The receivers that come in with the shipment from the vendor includes the part number and drawing number to which the part was built. I can always find that in our system and then call up the drawings in my materials handling system to show the FUS inspector. The UL yellow book will also provide the inspector with the information that the vendor is recognized by and independent (someone other than my company) inspection authority to build these types of parts. That has always resolved the issue with the FUS people I have worked with here in the Northwest. Certainly, not bullet proof but I believe it provides me with more than reasonable assurance that the process is working Gary McInturff -----Original Message----- From: Millsaps Cindy-G14342 [SMTP:g14...@ga25epd.mot.com] Sent: Thursday, November 19, 1998 5:09 AM To: 'Darrell Locke (MSMail)'; 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: RE: Plastics Cert Documentation
We just had a meeting here yesterday on this same issue. The shear number of plastic subassemblies that we have makes it very difficult to keep C of C's for every piece. We are trying to decide what other alternatives there are. I would appreciate being copied on any answers that anyone may have on this topic. Thanks, Cindy Millsaps Product Safety Engineer Motorola Energy Systems Group (770) 338-3288 FAX: (770) 338-3345 -----Original Message----- From: Darrell Locke (MSMail) [SMTP:dlo...@advanced-input.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 5:44 PM To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' Subject: Plastics Cert Documentation Dear Fellow Members, We have a plethora of plastic subassemblies, produced by outside vendors, that are received and stocked in our factory. We must keep certs of flammability on file for each shipment of every plastic part to satisfy UL, CSA, and TUV factory inspectors. This involves sorting and filing lots of paper and maintaing a long row of filing cabinets. The method seems cumbersome in this electronic age. Does anyone have experience with easier methods of tracking these certs that is also acceptable to the agencies. Thanks very much Darrell Locke Advanced Input Devices --------- This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). --------- This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). --------- This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: "unsubscribe emc-pstc" (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, j...@gwmail.monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).