Alex, make sure you investigate whether or not energy is coupling to other
cables of the EUT and causing problems.  In other words, try to reduce the
system (remove cables) and see if the EFT failures persist.  If you can't
remove a cable due to functionality, place ferrites on it instead (near the
EUT).   You may be surprised how a failure manifests itself.  Sometimes
you've got to back up and take a look at the forest...  :)

Good luck...

Paul Hare               e: ph...@pirus.com
Compliance Engineer     w: 978.206.9179
Pirus Networks          f: 978.206.9199
43 Nagog Park           c: 508.450.0376
Acton, MA 01720         i: www.pirus.com


-----Original Message-----
From: am...@westin-emission.no [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 4:04 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: SV: EFT Failures..Update!



Alex,

What happened during the burst test ? Did the EUT break down or did you only
have minor disturbances/faults during the test ?

I assume that you know that EFT/bursts usually is a performance criteria B
test, which means that temporary faults are accepted during the test, as
long that the EUT is self-recoverable after the test.

Amund

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Fra: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]På vegne av Alex McNeil
Sendt: 23. oktober 2001 10:44
Til: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org'
Emne: EFT Failures..Update!




Hi Group,

THANKS for your very much appreciated responses!! I was in panic mode!!

I thought it would be appropriate to let you know the status.

My product is a small all plastic enclosure Point if Sale (POS) Class III
terminal. It has an external SMPS, Class II, no earth, supplying SELV, 12Vdc
1.5A to my product. The power supply works OK with some of our other
products, for EMC. The problem is with my product.

I solved the problem at the test house by wrapping a few turns of the DC PSU
cable through a "Large" Ferrite Clamp at the Product input (it did not work
so well at the PSU I/P nor O/P). The fix cannot be considered final due to
obvious reasons.

I am now at my Lab, now the serious diagnostics begin. I have been trying
various "quick fixes" to no avail i.e. Caps, TVS, MOV etc.

If you have any further comments feel free to email me.

THANKS again to all those who responded with their thoughts. I can tell you
they were wide and varied just as you would expect to trying to resolve an
EMC problem over the NET!!

Best Regards
alex.mcn...@ingenicofortronic.com








>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         Alex McNeil
> Sent: 22 October 2001 11:23
> To:   emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> Subject:      EFT Failures..Help!
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I am at an EMC test centre today and tomorrow. Unfortunately, my product
> failed EFT testing on the AC power port at 1KV. This is for various
> combinations of Line, Neutral and Earth (L, N, E, LN, LE, NE and LNE)
>
> My product is Class II, no Earth. It is supplied by an external power
> supply. This supplies SELV to my product. The power supply manufacturer
> has stated that his power supply meets EN61000-4-4 for 2KV and has emailed
> me this report to verify this.
>
> Has anyone got a quick solution to my problem so that I can implement here
> at the EMC test house?
>
> Kind Regards
> Alex McNeil
> Principal Engineer
> Tel: +44 (0)131 479 8375
> Fax: +44 (0)131 479 8321
> email: alex.mcn...@ingenicofortronic.com
>

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