Thanks for your reply Greg, This is news to me. My experience is that UL will not accept the test results of any other laboratory (except one of their own). I was told they are being sued over this because they were the only NRTL that would not accept data from other NRTLs. Has this changed recently? Normally we would not consider using UL because of the high cost and long time intervals anyway.
Don -----Original Message----- From: Greg Nielsen [mailto:greg.niel...@setengineering.com] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 10:49 AM To: 'Don House' Subject: RE: Product Marking Don, I believe the intent of your wording is correct, but a unit does not necessarily have to be "tested" by UL to be authorized to apply the UL Mark. A CB or other report with a product sample can be "evaluated" and certified by UL without UL performing any testing. Greg Nielsen Compliance Engineer Set Engineering, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Don House [mailto:dho...@excelsus-tech.com] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 8:17 AM To: Praveen Rao; 'Pham, Tac'; 'Courtland Thomas'; emcpost Subject: RE: Product Marking Perhaps you are being confused by the symbols. The UL symbol can only be used if your product is tested by UL not another lab. UL1950 and CSA 22.2 are both the same requirements. They have been "normalized" by international agreement. Text can be used in place of logos if the text is in close proximity to the logo of the LISTING laboratory. Of course nothing can be sold in Canada without the Canadian supplied flag labels with the certification number imprinted. Don -----Original Message----- From: Praveen Rao [mailto:p...@tennyson.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:36 PM To: 'Pham, Tac'; 'Courtland Thomas'; emcpost Subject: RE: Product Marking This is the symbol (see attached) we were advised to use by CSA for both Canada and USA. But no 'UL' to be mentioned anywhere. The testing was through the CB scheme tested here in Australia. Praveen -----Original Message----- From: Pham, Tac [mailto:tac.p...@power-one.com] Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2001 9:00 AM To: 'Courtland Thomas'; emcpost Subject: RE: Product Marking Courtland, The NRTL (UL, CSA) would not like the idea that one marked the product with the word UL or CSA because (their argument) it is misleading. In some cases, TUV, ETL etc. can certify some products using UL/CSA standards. Tac, Power-One TSD -----Original Message----- From: Courtland Thomas [mailto:ctho...@patton.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 1:05 PM To: emcpost Subject: Product Marking Hello group, I have a question concerning labeling a product. If we go to a NRTL and get Safety testing performed, we typically put the Safety logo (UL for example) on the product label. Our marketing people have a problem with having different logo's. They would like to standarize on a single logo such as UL. This kind of thinking hinders the process of getting the best price possible. I would like to get the testing performed at a lab which doesn't use UL. Would it be possible to just put "Conforms to UL 1950 and CAN/CSA 1950" on the label and forget the logo? Or is there a requirement to have a logo? Thanks, Courtland Thomas Patton Electronics ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson: pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
