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I think a Voice over IP is within the scope of the RTTE due to the following definition in the RTTED : Under Article 2(b) of the RTTED, telecomms terminal equipment is defined as a product "enabling communication or a relevant component thereof which is intended to be connected directly or indirectly by any means whatsoever to interfaces of public telecommunications networks" i.e. note "directly of indirectly", a VOIP phone is indirectly connected. Whether it is interpreted to be within the scope of the EMCD, LVD or RTTED it should comply with the LVD and EMCD as specified by Article 3 (Essential Requirements) of the RTTED anyway : Article 3.1(a) of the RTTED - LVD compliance essential requirement Article 3.1(b) of the RTTED - Protection requirements of the EMCD. When applying the EMC immunity tests specified by EN 55024, the Annex A performance criteria of this standard would then apply, which are specifically for TTE. Regards Mark Render EMC and Radio Group Manager KTL Saxon Way Priory Park West Hessle East Yorkshire HU13 9PB E-mail: mren...@ktl.com Tel: +44 (0) 1482 801801 Fax: +44 (0) 1482 801806 -----Original Message----- From: Ilan Cohen [mailto:ico...@itl.co.il] Sent: 04 December 2002 06:16 To: 'John Woodgate'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Cc: Peter Merguerian Subject: RE: CE for IP Phone I do not think that IP phone is under the RTTE directive. For a simple reason, voltage is limited to 48 V (SELV) and the phone itself is a SELV unit with a microphone, a speaker and a fancy LCD. Clearly if we "try hard" we may squeeze an IP phone under the RTTE directive, but the proper compliance path should be LVD. I would be surprised if an IP phone manufacturer test their product under the RTTE. ---------------------------------------------------- Ilan Cohen Manager, Telecom Division I.T.L (PRODUCT TESTING) Ltd. 26 Hacharoshet St, POB 211, Or Yehuda, Israel. Tel 972-3-5339022, Fax 972-3-5339019 ico...@itl.co.il, website: http://www.itl.co.il ---------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 1:12 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: CE for IP Phone I read in !emc-pstc that Peter Merguerian <pmerguer...@itl.co.il> wrote (in <2D1037012914D4118DB8204C4F4F50203DDE91@ITLLTD01>) about 'CE for IP Phone' on Tue, 3 Dec 2002: >For Europe, does an IP telephone (all SELV) having no connection to the >telecom network fall under the RTTE Directive or just covered by the LVD and >EMC Directives? AIUI, it falls into the category in which the manufacturer can choose either RTTE or LVD + EMCD. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" ------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"