A good point John, And many facts - including that derivatives of baseball (softball, rounders) are played recreationally in Europe - should remind us that we share a common heritage. As such our rivalry is (and should remain) more akin to that of siblings than that of adversaries. So, the REAL real question is: when are you going to learn to play 'soccer' competently?
Dave Graham, RCC Ltd 37 High Street, Manea March, Cambs, UK PE15 0JD T: 01354 688310 F: 0870 1319036 M: 07764 199768 -----Original Message----- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of John Shinn Sent: 01 November 2002 00:10 To: 'John Allen'; plaw...@west.net; 'EMC-PSTC' Subject: RE: CE marking/testing of military equipment John: You have made some very valid points. The "World Series" is a North American only game, and of course there is the American Football. Actually, somewhere in the distant past, the game was closer to Rugby and was actually kicked much more often than it is now. Someone figured out that it could be thrown (a pass) with more accuracy and the game has not been the same since. Lists / groups like this, with it's many different cultures, words, and common problems and solutions, have become a a means for us to communicate and understand each other. We see each other as different, can lightly enjoy some of the humor regarding some of these differences, and learn from the exchange. So, the real question is: When are you going to get a baseball team together and start playing for a slot in the World Series? Best regards, John Shinn -----Original Message----- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of John Allen Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:32 PM To: plaw...@west.net; EMC-PSTC Subject: Re: CE marking/testing of military equipment Hi Folks Sorry - it's me again.! 'Her Majesty's Stationery Office' (HMSO" is NOT the "goverment standards group" - it is the official government REGULATIONS publiishing site and is just like the Government Printing Office (at least, I think that is what it is called) in Washington etc. Also, I think you will find that many other countries that are not republics (God Forbid that should happen to the UK! - we already almost have "President" Tony Blair, and that is bad enough!) have "odd" names for some of their national institutions and organisations. Therefore I think I could make a few derogatory remarks about some US names and traditions - like calling a baseball or American "football" [???!!!! - the ball is hardly ever kicked by anone's foot!] series, the "World Series" when the game in question is only played in the USA and a very few other countries!!!!) - so let's leave that type of "funny remark" for another time and place. Regards John Allen Technical Consultant Electromagnetics, Safety and Reliability Group ERA Technology Ltd Cleeve Rd Leatherhead Surrey KT22 7SA Tel: +44 (0) 1372-367025 (Direct) +44 (0) 1372-367000 (Switchboard) Fax: +44 (0) 1372-367102 (Fax) (but sent from my home email address!) ----- Original Message ----- From: <plaw...@west.net> To: "EMC-PSTC" <emc-p...@ieee.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:50 PM Subject: Re: CE marking/testing of military equipment Hi Gert: I made the comment about the UK based on the following information: http://www.emctla.org/Tech%20Notes/technical_guidance_note_33.htm 2) I found the standard referred to at: http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1992/Uksi_19922372_en_1.htm See section 20. PS: I love the Brits - who else would title the government standards group 'Her Majesty's Stationery Office'! On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:48:18 +0100, "Gert Gremmen" <g.grem...@cetest.nl> wrote: >There is no ground to beieve that military equiment is to be excluded >in any country in Europe. This is definitely not the case in the >Netherlands. > >Regards, > >Gert Gremmen >ce-test, qualified testing >Rotterdam, The Netherlands > >http://www.ce-test.nl > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of plaw...@west.net >Sent: woensdag 30 oktober 2002 18:49 >To: EMC-PSTC >Subject: CE marking/testing of military equipment > > > >I have a customer asking for CISPR 22 test results on a commercial power >supply >intended for use in military equipment in Europe. > >I've heard the UK excludes military equipment from CE marking. 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