Hello Samuel, And, what say you of products not used in the workplace (I don't necessarily agree with the position stated by some that one's home is a workplace - other than for home based businesses)?
Best regards, Art Michael -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- | http://www.safetylink.com | | | | The Safety Link is the most comprehensive collection | | of product safety and standards resources on the WEB | | | | Int'l Product Safety News | | (It's our 18th Anniversary 1988-2006) | | P.O.Box 1561 - WWW | | Middletown CT 06457-8061 U.S.A. | | Phone: (860) 344-1651 Fax: (860) 346-9066 | | http://www.safetylink.com/#IPSN | -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- =========================================== On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Samuel Lifshutz wrote: > Group: > > > > Here are the reasons for safety compliance in USA. > > > > In United States, Code of Federal Regulations, CFR 29, Subpart S, Part > 1910.399 states that installation or equipment that utilizes electricity > and used in the workplace must be acceptable to the Assistant Secretary > of Labor. > > > > Acceptable. An installation or equipment is acceptable to the Assistant > Secretary of Labor, and approved within the meaning of this Subpart S: > > (i) If it is accepted, or certified, or listed, or labeled, or otherwise > determined to be safe by a nationally recognized testing laboratory; or > > (ii) With respect to an installation or equipment of a kind which no > nationally recognized testing laboratory accepts, certifies, lists, > labels, or determines to be safe, if it is inspected or tested by > another Federal agency, or by a State, municipal, or other local > authority responsible for enforcing occupational safety provisions of > the National Electrical Code, and found in compliance with the > provisions of the National Electrical Code as applied in this subpart; > or > > (iii) With respect to custom-made equipment or related installations > which are designed, fabricated for, and intended for use by a particular > customer, if it is determined to be safe for its intended use by its > manufacturer on the basis of test data which the employer keeps and > makes available for inspection to the Assistant Secretary and his > authorized representatives. Refer to 1910.7 for definition of nationally > recognized testing laboratory. > > > > CFR 29 provides the list of NRTL and a list of standards acceptable to > the Assistant Secretary of Labor. > > > > Failure to have product listed by NRTL is a violation of law. > > > > States laws, municipal, local and industry regulations may have > additional acceptability requirements. > > > > Non-compliance may result in criminal and civil penalties. > > > > Samuel Lifshutz > > Manager QA > > MRV Communications Inc. > > 20520 Nordhoff Street > > Chatsworth, CA 91311, USA > > Tel: (818) 772-6235 x265 > > Fax: (818) 772-0576 > > email: slifsh...@mrv.com > > Registered by QMI to ISO 9001:2000 > > > > ________________________________ > > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of > Jayasinghe, Ryan > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:34 AM > To: ted.eck...@apcc.com; charles.black...@sulisconsultants.com > Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: RE: NRTL mark required for goods shipped into USA? > > > > Hello All, > > Also from GR1089: 7.2 Listing Requirements > R7-1 [22] All network equipment that is directly powered by commercial > ac, either through a hard-wire or plug-and-cord connection, shall be > listed for the purpose by a Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory > (NRTL)....and is mentioned in several other sections depending on > product type-required tests. > > Applies also Customer Premise Equipment powered by AC. > > The folks performing NEBS testing might require NRTL listing. > > Ryan Jazz Jayasinghe Compliance Engineer x1198 > Canoga Perkins Direct:(818) 678-3898 > 20600 Prairie Street Company:(818) 718-6300 > Chatsworth, CA 91311-6008 e-mail: r...@canoga.com > www.canoga.com FAX:(818) 678-3798 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of > ted.eck...@apcc.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:56 AM > To: charles.black...@sulisconsultants.com > Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: Re: NRTL mark required for goods shipped into USA? > > > > Hello Charlie, > > The United States National Electrical Code does not require NRTL Listing > > for general installations, but it is a benefit. Products that are not > NRTL > marked are subject to the approval of the local electrical inspector. > That > person has the ability to accept unmarked product, but then you have to > deal with their preferences and prejudices in your design. NRTL > approval > dramatically reduces the risk of a local inspector rejecting your > equipment. Of course, you will find some local inspectors who will > reject > any product without NRTL marking. Although there are legal ways to > avoid > NRTL marking, it has essentially become a requirement based on local > inspections. > > In terms of NEBS, each of the US telephone companies has their own > requirements based on the Telcordia NEBS standards. You need to comply > with the specific requirements of your customer. > http://www.nebs-faq.com/do_the_rbocs_have_requirements_over.htm > You are correct that the RBOC has the right to make the final decision > on > any product. > > Ted Eckert > American Power Conversion Corporation > > The items contained in this e-mail reflect the personal opinions of the > writer and are only provided for the assistance of the reader. The > writer > is not speaking in an official capacity for APC nor representing APC's > official position on any matter. > > > > > > "Charles > > Blackham" > > <charles.blackham > To > @sulisconsultants emc-p...@ieee.org > > .com> > cc > Sent by: > > emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject > NRTL mark required for goods > > shipped into USA? > > 06/14/2006 04:18 > > AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group > > Client wishes to ship wirelss Telecom equipment to US customer for use > at > RBOC central office or commercial sites. The unit meets IEC60950-1, but > does not yet have an NRTL mark. > > As I understand it OSHA requires electrical equipment in a place of work > > to be NRTL listed / field marked or similar, through this does not apply > > to RBOCs as they operate their own (NEBS) rules. > > Also, AIUI, the right to install and operate of a piece of equipment at > an > RBOC premise is given by the person responsible for that building - its > not a "given right" based on any particular level of NEBS compliance or > non-compliance. > > Please could someone confirm that I'm right, or correct any > mis-understanding. > > Also - do US customs take any interest in electrical equipment arriving > in > the US without an NRTL mark? > > regards > Charlie > > Charles Blackham > Sulis Consultants Ltd > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society > emc-pstc discussion list. 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