Look into that "homeopathic" process. If I recall, a homeopathic solution is made from the same irritant that it is proposed to fix, by diluting the substance to extreme and using it to instill an immunity to the irritant.
- Bill You can say what you want about the South, but you never hear of anyone retiring and moving North!!! --- On Sat, 7/5/08, 'Rich Nute' <rn...@san.rr.com> wrote: From: 'Rich Nute' <rn...@san.rr.com> Subject: RE: A Disk To Reduce EMI from Cell Phones? To: "'Scott Douglas'" <sdoug...@ptcnh.net>, "'EMC PSTC'" <emc-p...@ieee.org> Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 8:27 PM Hi Scott: So, I went to the web sites you cited. Then, I went to the citations. For one of the citations, the abstract says: "Levels of DNA single-strand break were assayed in brain cells from rats acutely exposed to low-intensity 2450 MHz microwaves using an alkaline microgel electrophoresis method. Immediately after 2 h of exposure to pulsed (2 s width, 500 pulses/s) microwaves, no significant effect was observed, whereas a dose rate-dependent [0.6 and 1.2 W/kg whole body specific absorption rate (SAR)] increase in DNA single-strand breaks was found in brain cells of rats at 4 h postexposure. Furthermore, in rats exposed for 2 h to continuous-wave 2450 MHz microwaves (SAR 1.2 W/kg), increases in brain cell DNA single-strand breaks were observed immediately as well as at 4 h postexposure. C 1995 Wiley-Liss, Inc." The FDA limits cell phone SAR to the head to 1.6 W/kg. Cell phones operate at about 824-829 MHz, and 1850-1910 MHz. I'm not sure how to compare 1.2 W/kg SAR at 2450 MHz with 1.6 W/kg SAR at 1910 MHz or 829 MHz. These frequencies are from: http://www.privateline.com/PCS/Frequencies.htm The Quantum Biology Research "paper" reports cell phones operating at 2450 MHz. I could not confirm that cell phones operate at 2450 MHz. See: http://www.aulterra.com/en-US/pdf/index/QBResearch2006 This paper indicates the 2450 MHz is from a wireless phone, not a cell phone. Another web site says that the Neutralizer is made from "homeopathically enhanced or crystalline matrix mixed into the ink of the Neutralizer patch. These finely ground minerals and trace elements are derived from a rock discovered in Utah..." Here are several interesting reports on testing the Neutralizer: http://www.shieldemf.com/files/1690372/uploaded/IIREC_Report.pdf http://www.aulterra.com/en-US/pdf/index/Sun http://www.aulterra.com/en-US/pdf/index/UCIrvine Lots of information out there. Seems like Aulterra has been shipping their Neutralizer around for testing and reports. I wonder if the inventor knows how it works? Best regards, Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf > Of Scott Douglas > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 12:58 PM > To: 'EMC PSTC' > Subject: A Disk To Reduce EMI from Cell Phones? > > > Oh Mighty List, > > Received an email from my sister with information about a > product called > the Neutralizer which uses a "proprietary organic compound > composed of > natural earth elements which neutralizes the effect of man-made EMF > exposure on human DNA". This product comes in the form of a > sticker you > can apply to your cell phone, computer monitor, etc. such that "human > DNA can be protected from the damaging effects of RF/EMF". > Somewhere I > read that it does not block or absorb EMI, but "transforms" it into > coherent and non-harmful radiation emulating "organic" radiation (my > words here). I also read something about a holographic disk. > All in all > I was rather confused, like I was going in circles. > > I am not doing a great job of explaining this product so I ask you to > visit: http://www.energeticnutrition.com/hi/neutralizer.html > and see for > yourselves. Scroll down to read all the material, especially > the FAQ at > the end. I also read one or two of the "research" papers here: > http://www.aulterra.com/en-US/welcome/research. > > I am not connected in any way with this product, except my > sister bought > some disks. I am really curious to know if anyone on the list > has ever > heard of this product? Or would someone else go check out these web > sites and let me know what you think? On the one hand, it sounds like > the holy grail of EMI fixes. On the other hand, maybe I need > to take out > a selling license for the product and plan to retire early. > > All comments welcome, on or off list. > > Best regards, > > Scott Douglas > sdoug...@ptcnh.net > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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