Dear Peter, Thanks for the feedback. For one product we went through TUV and found that for everything they follow UL standards. They demand UL file number for all the critical parts. In that way we felt UL is the master and leading in defining the standard hence continuing with UL.
Sincerely                                                          SCM Microsystems (India) Pvt. Ltd. K. Balasubramanian                                         Modules 0506, 0507 & 0508, D – Block, Manager – Hardware                                        South Wing, TIDEL Park, Tel : +91 44 42931391                                      #4, Rajiv Gandhi Road,(formerly Canal Bank Road) Fax :+91 44 22540029                                       Taramani, Chennai – 600113. India E-mail:kbalasubraman...@scmmicro.co.in         Web : http://scmmicro.com ‘This email and any attachment may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you have received this information in error, you are prohibited from reading, copying, distributing and using the information. If you are not a named addressee or otherwise an intended recipient you are requested to immediately notify the sender and to delete this email and all attachments from your system.’ peter merguerian <pmerguerian2001@ yahoo.com> To emc-p...@ieee.org, 11/07/2008 11:03 kbalasubraman...@scmmicro.co.in AM cc "EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG" <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Please respond to Subject pmerguerian2001@y Re: UL 60950 preliminary inspection ahoo.com / design review Dear Mr Balasubramanian, Looks like you need to try and use another National Recognized Test Laboratory (NRTL). Have you tried TUV Rheinland - the North American office is NRTL accredited by OSHA and Standards Council of Canada - Out of 19 countries in Asia, TUV Rheinland has 8 offices in India with test laboratory capabilities for world markets. http://www.tuv.com/in/en/regional_offices.html Best Regards, Peter Merguerian --- On Thu, 11/6/08, kbalasubraman...@scmmicro.co.in <kbalasubraman...@scmmicro.co.in> wrote: From: kbalasubraman...@scmmicro.co.in <kbalasubraman...@scmmicro.co.in> Subject: UL 60950 preliminary inspection / design review To: emc-p...@ieee.org Cc: "EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG" <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 6:45 AM Dear Experts, We submit most of products to UL for 60950 listing. Almost 95 % of our products are UL listed. We find it very difficult to complete the cycle. Many times we come across situations that the parts used are not meeting UL spec. and a redesign is inevitable. This further complicates the things and delay the cycle. We look for some consultants who can help us by participating from the design review stage itself. The most sad part is many times we submit the product to UL for preliminary inspection during the proto stage and UL (India office located at Bangalore) gives pass report. Then we go for pilot production (simultaneously we initiate procurement for mass production also) and submit the pilot samples to the same UL office for final certification. At this time UL is coming with new findings and ultimately product fails to get UL listing. All the times I am sure that there is no difference between the proto samples and pilot samples. Mostly some resistor values get changed between proto and pilot. It is not clear to me whether it is the competence issue at UL India or UL is greedy in money making. I look for advise from the experts of this forum. I have been told that UL Taiwan is more proficient in 60950 standard. Is this true? Sincerely SCM Microsystems (India) Pvt. Ltd. K. 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