RE: Australia Requiems for ITE Equipment

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Kevin

 

You say below …. “Finally, concerning the comments about electrical
safety, it is true that electrical safety approval is not covered by either
the A-Tick or the C-Tick”. 

 

Isn’t it the case that for A-Tick, if the product has a PSTN modem,  then
safety is required (AS/NZS or IEC 60950).

 

Rgds

Brian McAuliffe

 

From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Kevin
Richardson
Sent: 09 December 2009 21:37
To: Knighten, Jim L; Dan Roman; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: Australia Requiems for ITE Equipment

 

Christine, 

 

Jim is correct.  The Australian regulations require the local manufacturer,
importer or the appointed Agent of the local manufacturer or importer be
responsible for compliance of the produce supplied in Australia.  As such,
they must assemble the necessary compliance documentation (i.e. product
Compliance Folder) and then sign a Declaration of Conformity (DoC).  In
addition, which ever it is making the DoC, the product must display their ACMA
Supplier Code Number (SCN).

 

Therefore, if you are an overseas manufacturer/supplier who does not have a
registered business presence in Australia importing your own product, each and
every importer of your product must take responsibility for the product they
import and supply (i.e. establish a product Compliance Folder, sign a DoC and
ensure the product is labelled with their ACMA SCN and only their SCN). 
Seemingly complicated I know. 

 

The easiest and greatest benefit approach for overseas manufacturers/suppliers
to access the Australian market if they do not have a local office or do not
with a local office to be the importer of their product is for the overseas
manufacturer/supplier to enter into an 'arrangement' with a company in
Australia offering 'Agent' service.  Then, providing each of their importers
agree to enter into an 'Agency agreement' with that same Agent, the overseas
manufacturer/supplier only need deal with a single entity in terms of
compliance of their product and also the bit plus it all product can be
labelled with a single SCN, i.e. the Agent's, instead of a different SCN for
each of the importers.

 

Finally, concerning the comments about electrical safety, it is true that
electrical safety approval is not covered by either the A-Tick or the C-Tick. 
A separate and formal approval is required in some instances but general not
for ITE.  The only item at the moment that MUST be approved is an external
power supply (i.e. typical laptop type PSU).  this device is a "Declared
Article" according to the electrical regulations in each State/Territory of
Australia and as such must have a "Certificate of Suitability" issued for the
the PSU.

 

There are moves afoot to change the electrical regulations significantly
which, when introduced, will introduce rather sweeping changes.  The ACMA are
also looking at the possibility of moving to a single mark although if
introduced will most likely be synchronised to coincide with the introduction
of the new electrical regulations because they are both likely to then require
the use of the "Regulatory Compliance Mark" (RCM).  At the moment, use of the
RCM is outlined in AS/NZS 4417 series of standards.

 

 

Best regards, 
Kevin Richardson 

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        -----Original Message-----
        From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of 
Knighten, Jim L
        Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 6:20 AM
        To: Dan Roman; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
        Subject: RE: Australia Requiremts for ITE Equipment

        Dan,

         

        You can read the rules on the ACMA web site http://www.acma.gov.au
<http://www.acma.gov.au/> .  C-tick is for EMC and radio communications
compliance.  A-Tick is for telecommunications, of which I have no experience. 
For c-tick, the manufacturer, importer or their agent responsible for
compliance and for placing it on the Australian market is required to sign and
hold the c-tick DoC.  The signer needs an Australian address.   

         

        Jim

        __________________________ 

        James L. Knighten, Ph.D. 
        EMC Engineer 
        Teradata Corporation 
        17095 Via Del Campo 
        San Diego, CA 92127 

        858-485-2537 – phone 
        858-485-3788 – fax (unattended) 

         

        
________________________________


        From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Dan 
Roman
        Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:06 AM
        To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
        Subject: RE: Australia Requiremts for ITE Equipment

         

        Jim,

         

        What about an “agency agreement” or is this a telecom-only instrument? 
We sell both C-tick and A-tick marked equipment and we have a presence in
Australia that we use for the Australian business number and for the DoC.  We
are not the sole importer, in fact we are rarely the actual importer, many of
our customers ship our product into Australia on their own.  Is an agency
agreement needed for either A-tick or C-tick if the product is already labeled
and fully in compliance as we provide it?

         

        Dan

         

        From: Knighten, Jim L [mailto:jim.knigh...@teradata.com] 
        Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:44 PM
        To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
        Subject: Re: [PSES] Australia Requiremts for ITE Equipment

         

        Christine,

         

        Selling ITE equipment in Australia/New Zealand requires a c-tick 
Supplier’s
(not manufacturer) Declaration of Conformity, which must be signed by a
representative of the supplier in either Australia or New Zealand.  The DoC
must have the supplier’s ACMA supplier code number on it, or an Australian
business number. 

         

        Jim

         

        __________________________ 

        James L. Knighten, Ph.D. 
        EMC Engineer 
        Teradata Corporation 
        17095 Via Del Campo 
        San Diego, CA 92127 

        858-485-2537 – phone 
        858-485-3788 – fax (unattended) 

         

        
________________________________


        From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of 
Christine
Rodham
        Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:08 AM
        To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
        Subject: Australia Requiremts for ITE Equipment

         

Dear List Members,

 

Do I need to have an in-country Rep to deploy ITE equipment into Australia?

 

Is UL/ TUV product safety required? Our vendor has only provided us with a
C-Tick EMC certificate and test report.

 

Regards,

 

Christine Rodham

        
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Kevin   You say below …. “Finally, concerning the comments about electrical safety, it is true that electrical safety approval is not covered by either the A-Tick or the C-Tick”.    Isn’t it the case that for A-Tick, if the product has a PSTN modem,  then safety is required (AS/NZS or IEC 60950).   Rgds Brian McAuliffe   From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Richardson Sent: 09 December 2009 21:37 To: Knighten, Jim L; Dan Roman; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Australia Requiems for ITE Equipment   Christine,   Jim is correct.  The Australian regulations require the local manufacturer, importer or the appointed Agent of the local manufacturer or importer be responsible for compliance of the produce supplied in Australia.  As such, they must assemble the necessary compliance documentation (i.e. product Compliance Folder) and then sign a Declaration of Conformity (DoC).  In addition, which ever it is making the DoC, the product must display their ACMA Supplier Code Number (SCN).   Therefore, if you are an overseas manufacturer/supplier who does not have a registered business presence in Australia importing your own product, each and every importer of your product must take responsibility for the product they import and supply (i.e. establish a product Compliance Folder, sign a DoC and ensure the product is labelled with their ACMA SCN and only their SCN).  Seemingly complicated I know.    The easiest and greatest benefit approach for overseas manufacturers/suppliers to access the Australian market if they do not have a local office or do not with a local office to be the importer of their product is for the overseas manufacturer/supplier to enter into an 'arrangement' with a company in Australia offering 'Agent' service.  Then, providing each of their importers agree to enter into an 'Agency agreement' with that same Agent, the overseas manufacturer/supplier only need deal with a single entity in terms of compliance of their product and also the bit plus it all product can be labelled with a single SCN, i.e. the Agent's, instead of a different SCN for each of the importers.   Finally, concerning the comments about electrical safety, it is true that electrical safety approval is not covered by either the A-Tick or the C-Tick.  A separate and formal approval is required in some instances but general not for ITE.  The only item at the moment that MUST be approved is an external power supply (i.e. typical laptop type PSU).  this device is a "Declared Article" according to the electrical regulations in each State/Territory of Australia and as such must have a "Certificate of Suitability" issued for the the PSU.   There are moves afoot to change the electrical regulations significantly which, when introduced, will introduce rather sweeping changes.  The ACMA are also looking at the possibility of moving to a single mark although if introduced will most likely be synchronised to coincide with the introduction of the new electrical regulations because they are both likely to then require the use of the "Regulatory Compliance Mark" (RCM).  At the moment, use of the RCM is outlined in AS/NZS 4417 series of standards.     Best regards, Kevin Richardson Stanimore Pty Limited Compliance Advice & Solutions for Technology (Legislation/Regulations/Standards/Australian Agent Services) Ph:       02-4329-4070       (Int'l: +61-2-4329-4070) Fax:      02-4328-5639       (Int'l: +61-2-4328-5639) Mobile:  04-1224-1620       (Int'l: +61-4-1224-1620) Email:    kevin.richard...@stanimore.com    or    kevin.richard...@ieee.org URL:     www.stanimore.com Confidentiality This material (this email including all attachments) may contain confidential and/or privileged information intended to be read or used by the addressees only.  If you are not one of the intended recipients, any copying, disclosure, distribution, use of or reliance upon this material is prohibited.  If you receive this material in error, please immediately notify Stanimore Pty Limited and delete/destroy all copies (electronic and hardcopy) of this email and all attachments.  While the sender tries to ensure the accuracy of the information contained in this material, Stanimore take no responsibility for any actions taken as a result of receiving this material or for any consequence of its use. -----Original Message----- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Knighten, Jim L Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 6:20 AM To: Dan Roman; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Australia Requiremts for ITE Equipment Dan,   You can read the rules on the ACMA web site http://www.acma.gov.au.  C-tick is for EMC and radio communications compliance.  A-Tick is for telecommunications, of which I have no experience.  For c-tick, the manufacturer, importer or their agent responsible for compliance and for placing it on the Australian market is required to sign and hold the c-tick DoC.  The signer needs an Australian address.      Jim __________________________ James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 – phone 858-485-3788 – fax (unattended)   From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Dan Roman Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:06 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Australia Requiremts for ITE Equipment   Jim,   What about an “agency agreement” or is this a telecom-only instrument?  We sell both C-tick and A-tick marked equipment and we have a presence in Australia that we use for the Australian business number and for the DoC.  We are not the sole importer, in fact we are rarely the actual importer, many of our customers ship our product into Australia on their own.  Is an agency agreement needed for either A-tick or C-tick if the product is already labeled and fully in compliance as we provide it?   Dan   From: Knighten, Jim L [mailto:jim.knigh...@teradata.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:44 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Australia Requiremts for ITE Equipment   Christine,   Selling ITE equipment in Australia/New Zealand requires a c-tick Supplier’s (not manufacturer) Declaration of Conformity, which must be signed by a representative of the supplier in either Australia or New Zealand.  The DoC must have the supplier’s ACMA supplier code number on it, or an Australian business number.   Jim   __________________________ James L. 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