I'd be surprised if 85dB(A) for 8 hours a day didn't result in profound 
hearing loss over an extended time. 

And what does @ 3m mean in a workplace;  3 metres from what?   There may 
be more than one source
of noise in a factory or workshop. 
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Ralph McDiarmid  |   Schneider Electric   |  Solar Business  |   CANADA  | 
  Regulatory Compliance Engineering 




From:
Doug Nix <d...@mac.com>
To:
EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Date:
09/04/2012 02:21 PM
Subject:
Re: [PSES] Buzzer loudness standard?



Gary,

No. " ...3dB above the maximum OSHA 8 hour day background limit @ 3 
meters..." See the table in 1910.95. These are the absolute limits. Other 
jurisdictions, like Ontario where I live, have lower limits. 85 dB(A) TWA 
8h here. Also see the ACGIH tables in the TLV's and BEI's. You'll find 
corroborating data. The EU is considering lower limits.

Having said that, if you know that your intended use environment is 
quieter than that, then feel free to spec it lower, BUT that will not 
conform to the text of the standard originally quoted.

-- 
Doug Nix
d...@mac.com

“Scientists investigate that which already is; Engineers create that which 
has never been.” - Albert Einstein 


On 4-September-2012, at 11:53, McInturff, Gary wrote:

Doug, doesn’t OSHA have different levels for different environments – 
machinery rooms where they have to have ear protection can go up to 90, 
but offices would certainly be less than that. I think a “quiet office” is 
around 55 dBA
 
 
Gary
 
From: Doug Nix [mailto:d...@mac.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 8:42 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Buzzer loudness standard?
 
Actually it does. OSHA 1910.95 tells you that the maximum time-weighted 
average (TWA) noise exposure for 8 hours is 90 dB(A). Based on the 
instrument standard you quoted, this means the buzzer must emit at least 
93 dB(A). See 29 CR 1901.95, Table G-16, 
http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=STANDARDS&p_id=9735
 
Doug Nix
On 4-September-2012, at 00:34, Curt McNamara wrote:


We have a customer product where they desire to reference an industry 
standard for the loudness of a buzzer. They started with OSHA 3dB over 
ambient:
the instrument shall have an audible indicator detected 3dB above the 
maximum OSHA 8 hour day background limit @ 3 meters.
 
However that doesn't really tell us how loud it needs to be. It is used in 
a clinic where animals are treated.
 
Any suggestions?
 
Thanks!
 
         Curt
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