After pulling this out of a piece of equipment, I have serious doubts about the 
long term use of wire nuts.  

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David Schaefer
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-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 10:45 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] What's the deal with Wire Nuts?

At the risk of redundancy, I would like to re-open a question from
2008 "What's the deal with Wire Nuts?"
http://www.mail-archive.com/emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org/msg56599.html

The original discussion seems to track well with my own opinion on the use of 
these wiring devices, but this is based my opinion.  I am aware of many 
American appliance manufacturers who use these devices and still obtain their 
safety certifications.  It is my *opinion* that any equipment destined for the 
European market should not use these devices but I cannot find any direct 
prohibition on their use.  The IPC 620 standard may have limits but this is 
more like a workmanship standard.

Several reasons might be used to prohibit their use:

1) Temperature ratings
2) Secondary securement of conductors
3) Insufficient coverage of bare metal parts and resulting electrical tape used 
(creepage problem)
4) No limit to the number of conductors
5) Over/Under twisting of the connector
6) Metallic insert or non-metallic


This time around my context is equipment that falls under the scope of IEC 
61010-1 and its derivatives.  Has anyone seen a definitive answer to this 
question?

--
Thanks, -doug

Douglas E Powell
doug...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01

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