dang you beat me too it. I thought this would evolve over several notes, but no... you had to go all the way at once. I was going to go from single point, expanded to a single edge, expended to a plane, which can again be expanded to a chassis, and with care on cable shield terminations, to single ground set of chassis, and then stepped up the CBN, common bonding network of a single ground room. Now to go see everyone else says!
>________________________________ > From: "ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen" <g.grem...@cetest.nl> >To: Bill Owsley <wdows...@yahoo.com>; d...@dsmith.org; Si-List ><si-l...@freelists.org>; emc-pstc <emc-p...@ieee.org> >Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:40 AM >Subject: RE: Single Point Grounding - Not Achievable at High Frequencies >(greater than a few MHz) > > > >Yes, it is….! > >In RF technology it is very common to use a plane as a single grounding point. >It is a very satisfying replacement for the single-grounding-point solution. > >The ground layer in any multi-layer PCB is such a single-plane-ground, with >similar electrical properties to the “old school” single ground concept at >both RF and AF frequencies. > >I would re-formulate the statement in that it is impossible to connect 2 ground >points , planes or structures using a single wire/connection. > > >Both Doug and Bill are also right of course from their point of concept/view. > > >Regards, > >Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc > > > >g.grem...@cetest.nl >www.cetest.nl > >Kiotoweg 363 >3047 BG Rotterdam >T 31(0)104152426 >F 31(0)104154953 > >Before printing, think about the environment. > > >Van:emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Bill Owsley >Verzonden: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 5:02 AM >Aan: d...@dsmith.org; Si-List; emc-pstc >Onderwerp: Re: Single Point Grounding - Not Achievable at High Frequencies >(greater than a few MHz) > >Dr. Tom Van Doren demonstrates that single point grounding is not possible >above the audio frequencies. >Thus the lower cutoff in the "regulations" of 9 kHz. And that is really old >school... > > >> >>________________________________ >> >>From:Doug Smith <d...@emcesd.com> >>To: Si-List <si-l...@freelists.org>; emc-pstc <emc-p...@ieee.org> >>Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:05 PM >>Subject: Single Point Grounding - Not Achievable at High Frequencies (greater >>than a few MHz) >> >>Hi All, >> >>I have just uploaded the first Technical Tidbit article from my new office in >>Boulder City, NV! Here it is: >>Technical Tidbit - April 2012 >>Single Point Grounding - Not Achievable at High Frequencies (greater than a >>few MHz) >> >>The link to the article is: http://emcesd.com/tt2012/tt041012.htm >> >>My new office in Boulder City, NV is officially open!!! Still more work to do >>on the house move so the next few weeks will be very busy and the May >>Technical Tidbit may be a little late as well. Once the move is complete, I >>expect to do morning 5 to 10 minute podcasts on technical topics every >>morning I am in the office. 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