Interference from digital devices has been solved, for all practical purposes (now).
Class B limits are amazingly conservative, to which large populations of devices ascribe. Vigilance keeps us employed. If you ask (the FCC) about the numbers of interference problems that reported due to DIGITAL devices, the answer is, statistically nil. Engineers' Credo: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." The other part of the Credo: "Electrons Happen." Mike Violette Washington Laboratories & American Certification Body mi...@wll.com +1 240 401 1388 On Jun 4, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Pettit, Ghery wrote: > Doug, > > While this may be the case, the use of a non-conductive table provides a > repeatable test setup from one lab to the next. Standardization of test > methods is every bit as important. Besides, the problem the standards (FCC > and CISPR) were designed to address was fixed a generation ago. While not > perfect, the limits and methods of measurement have accomplished the goal > that was set forth in the 1970s – solve a large interference problem. > > Ghery S. Pettit > > From: Douglas Smith [mailto:d...@emcesd.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 9:51 PM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: [PSES] radiated emissions testing may understate actual emissions, > an example using a class D stereo amp > > Hi Everyone, > > I just posted my latest Technical Tidbit a few hours ago using a class D > stereo amplifier to illustrate a potential problem whereby emission test > standards may understate the emissions from a digital device. Here goes: > > Abstract: Radiated emissions measurements of table top equipment are usually > made with the equipment placed on a non-conductive table. But such equipment > is often used on conductive surfaces, like a metal desk, and can couple to > the conductive surface to enhance emissions, essentially turning the > conductive surface into part of an antenna structure. When this happens, > standard testing of emissions can understate actual emissions. A Class D > (actually labeled Class Z) stereo amplifier is used to illustrate this effect > by measuring common mode current on its cables. > > Link to the article: http://www.emcesd.com/tt2014/tt060114.htm > Link to the whole site: http://www.emcesd.com (lots of new stuff) > > The class D amplifier I used to generate the data is a 20 Watt/channel stereo > amp with preamp built-in, a Lepai LP-2020A+. It is a great little amp, if not > a little noisy EMC wise, and makes a great EMC demo for those of you who run > courses. I tried one at home and cannot tell the difference between it and a > much larger amplifier. I plan to give one of these to all attendees in my > public seminars. > > Doug > > -- > University of Oxford Tutor > Department for Continuing Education > Oxford, Oxfordshire, United Kingdom > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ___ _ Doug Smith > \ / ) P.O. 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