The ARRL (American Radio Relay League, the US national ham radio club) has its 
own shielded enclosure  and EMI lab. They have recently tested agricultural 
"grow lights" and have found almost every sample exceeds CE limits (some by 
almost 60 dB). After no success in solving this condition with the 
manufacturers, the ARRL has submitted their data to the FCC and asked for 
recalls of the offending models. Hams also report problems with the switching 
power supplies associated with commercial LED light bulbs.

 

It will be interesting to see how the FCC reacts to a request to recall large 
volumes of consumer products; as far as I know, the last time the FCC was faced 
with controlling a large and uncaring market was back in the CB radio era of 
the 1970’s, and that didn’t work out very well at all.

 

Ed Price
WB6WSN
Chula Vista, CA USA

 

-----Original Message-----
From: CR [mailto:k...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:27 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) 
Where?

 

On 10/14/2015 10:25 PM, Ted Eckert wrote:

> 

> It is fairly common to run into issues where one product causes 

> interference where it shouldn’t.

> 

>  <http://www.compliance-club.com/archive/old_archive/Bananaskins.htm> 
> http://www.compliance-club.com/archive/old_archive/Bananaskins.htm

> 

 

Do note that the archive only covers up to 2004.  I've had occasion to cite 
entry 3.

 

I suspect the relative scarcity of reported problems may be ascribed to 
proactive standards that are revised when the need becomes evident; one reason 
I got a contract in 2004 -- and why it was extended.

 

Those of us who are Amateur Radio operators will have perhaps gotten involved 
in the myriad issues of new technology versus existing. I filed comments in the 
FCC's rulemaking on  BPL (UK:PLT/PLC), which agency in the past has acted as if 
it had gotten orders to ignore some kinds of complaints -- a non-technical 
issue, eh?

 

Some complaints answer the "why margin?" question, if possibly for a different 
reason than why we sometimes want it.

 

About 15 years ago, residents of a New Jersey neighborhood started complaining 
about hearing a local AM station (really local: 10KW in the middle of the 
development) on their answering machines and telephones.The odd thing was that 
this  apparently coincided with its switch from  an "Easy Listening" music 
format to Korean language evangelism (I suspect a power increase as well).  In 
any case, when the customer ordered equipment for that neighborhood he could 
(and IMO

should) have considered proximity of pole-mounted power and other wiring to a 
high power RF source not anticipated by standards-writers.

 

Cortland Richmond

 

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