I do have to agree – do even WE read the instruction and/or look at the symbols?
OTOH, apart from instructions and symbols, how else can manufacturers begin to address the issue of “risk reduction” other than making the products “absolutely safe”? And then, how can you do that and still release it to the market? Personally, I don’t think that is realistically possible, and therefore – as we have discussed before – the only likely solution is the risk assessment/ risk reduction approach. Over to you all J! John Allen W.London, UK From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: 05 April 2016 18:24 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] "For indoor use only" on External Power Supply The symbols are only for the inspectors. Everyone knows the users don’t read instructions much less symbolsJ -Dave From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 1:14 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] "For indoor use only" on External Power Supply There is a gap between standalone transformer standard requiring warning "For indoors use only" and combined product requiring no warning. There is no uniformity (standardization?) among safety standards for the use of the “indoor use” symbol. Virtually all electrical products are “indoor use”; few are outdoor use. I suppose all battery-powered products are candidates for outdoor use, but the safety standards don’t recognize this fact. Do users recognize that the symbol means “indoor use”? Rich - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
