And, after all, what's wrong with BASIC? It's not the language, but rather how you use it. I've seen great programs in BASIC and horrible ones in C.
Ralph McDiarmid Product Compliance Engineering Solar Business Schneider Electric -----Original Message----- From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 11:17 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Electronic versions of standards and DRM Hey, my mother programmed in BASIC. Show respect! At the end of March, IEC told CENELEC that it wasn't happy about the copyright status of ENs derived from IEC standards. However, IEC doesn't bother to copyright translations into minority languages, so in future we can have European standards only in Anglo-Saxon, Welsh, Breton, Swabian, etc.. National standards bodies will run compulsory 14-day total immersion courses in the appropriate language. But they will be free of charge. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England We live in exiting times -----Original Message----- From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 6:32 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Electronic versions of standards and DRM This was the general sentiment for the same discussion we previously had on this, which was memorialized in EDN or ED (do not remember). Am not certain that many standards are developed with public monies, as the ANSI, ISO, and IEC are NGOs, so the EN/UL/CSA/etc adoption of a national version of their standards still requires someone to pay the bill. What is not understood is that since the vast majority of standards are written by volunteers from industry and other concerns, there should be minimal direct cost to these documents. Perhaps it is time to look at ANSI's non-profit status. As most of my engineering colleagues are far more civilized and pragmatic than myself, will have to assume that there will be no engineering version of the storming of Bastille in our near future, or any other such technoid-revolutionary flashpoint. But what can be done is to appeal to the corporate bottom line. Let them influence the system and see what mountains can be moved. But am still open to a well-organized IEC insurrection at the steps of their Swiss HQ. We can drink good ale and eat burritos while camped out in Geneva a la the 'Occupy' movement. And our front-line protestors can hurl horrendous insults and biting epitaphs such as "your mother programs in basic", or "your computer does not meet class B limits". Brian -----Original Message----- From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:53 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Electronic versions of standards and DRM Standards produced by tax-payer funded bodies should be free to citizens, shouldn't they? With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England We live in exiting times -----Original Message----- From: Cortland Richmond [mailto:k...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 5:27 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Electronic versions of standards and DRM On 6/28/2016 10:59 AM, John Woodgate wrote: > ny standards publisher that makes it difficult to use their standards > qualifies for a Darwin Award. How stupid can you get? (We don't know, > we aren't extinct yet.) Hmm... Can I expect C63 etc. free on the FCC site? No? What a shame... 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