John,

Is the 32A breaker an IRE requirement and every household must comply 
regardless how old the house is?  On one occasion, some UK engineers told me 
that a small group of house in UK and EU still do not have such 32A breaker 
installed.  Thus the equipment complying with LVD Directive may not be safe in 
abnormal operation.

Scott
    
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    From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] 
    Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 1:50 PM
    To: Ralph McDiarmid <ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com>;
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    Subject: RE: [PSES] British question, about a BS1363 plug-in power supply
    
    A 32 A breaker connects to a loop of 2.5 mm^2 3-core cable (line, neutral
    and protective). A large number (there is a limit but it's complicated) of
    13 A wall outlets can be connected to this ring, relying on diversity to
    keep the total current below 32 A.
    
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    J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England
    
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    From: Ralph McDiarmid [mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com]
    Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 7:34 PM
    To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
    Subject: Re: [PSES] British question, about a BS1363 plug-in power supply
    
    What's a "ring circuit" ?
    
    
    Ralph McDiarmid
    Product Compliance
    Engineering
    Solar Business
    Schneider Electric
    
    
    
    
    From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org]
    Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2016 12:01 PM
    To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
    Subject: Re: [PSES] British question, about a BS1363 plug-in power supply
    
    
    I understood the fuse in the U.K. plug was to protect the power cordage.  In
    the U.K., outlets are supplied by a ring circuit rather than a branch
    circuit, therefore the power cord could exceed its ampacity (a U.S.A. term).
    So, if no power cord, no need for a fuse in the plug.
    I wonder if the power supply has a fuse to protect the power supply.  If so,
    would this count as the plug fuse?
    
    Rich
    
    
    From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com]
    Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2016 5:01 AM
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    Subject: [PSES] British question, about a BS1363 plug-in power supply
    
    I received a 5 W SMPS plug-in power supply as part of a multi-unit product.
    It has interchangeable pins for EU, US, Australian and UK  sockets, but it
    has no fuse. I think this is illegal and intend to notify Trading Standards,
    as the overall product is marketed by a prominent European company and is
    widely offered on the Internet.
    Is there any exemption at all for the requirement that a BS 1363 plug in any
    form must have a fuse?
    
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