Ken,

If the horn is continuously blowing in triplets, it is likely to prevent even intentional CO poisoning.

There is no need to disable the car and risk traffic dangers. Time is not crucial, just blowing the horn is enough and may notify people at a distance like in a house.

The numbers could use some fine tuning but close enough to make a point. For example the average CO deaths (439) are from 1999-2004 (Public Health Rep. <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22942466#> 2012 Sep-Oct;127(5):486-96) and percentage from automobiles 21-69% (Public Health Rep. <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21387954#> 2011 Mar-Apr;126(2):240-50). Maybe vehicle count should include trucks. I suspect manufacturers could make a dashboard mod for under $1.

This really is introducing three questions:
Should vehicles (or heating systems) have built in CO detectors?
At what value/death should we introduce safety measures?
Do we require such measures by law?

Bob Johnson

On 02/16/2017 02:38 PM, IBM Ken wrote:
Hi Bob- do you know what percentage of the 300 are accidental vs intentional?

Maybe instead of just alerting, the car should shut down upon reaching some measured CO limit.

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Robert Johnson <john...@itesafety.com <mailto:john...@itesafety.com>> wrote:

    In the US we sell about 15 million cars/yr and have about 300
    deaths/yr from automotive carbon monoxide. Since DC power is
    available, the horn is available, packaging is not needed,
    installation can be integrated in the auto manufacturing, I
    estimate an auto CO detector would cost below $10/car, about what
    a household one does.

    It would cost $500,000/death to install CO detectors in cars. Is
    this a reasonable expenditure to mandate?

    Bob Johnson

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