S/m does actually make sense (to me) as the antenna factor units for getting
magnetic field strength.  Since the input to our SA or receiver measures
voltage, we get back to current by multiplying the voltage times the
conductivity, or 1 over the impedance.  That doesn't directly get you to
Teslas, but Amps/m.

 

Brent G DeWitt, AB1LF
Milford, MA

 

 

 

 

From: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] 
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 5:35 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Passive Loop Emissions [General Use]

 

Ralph:

 

I'm afraid that your explanation didn't get through to me.

 

When I think of an electric field, I think of two voltage levels separated
by a distance, so Volts per meter seems very descriptive. For instance, two
plates, one meter apart, with one plate at 5 Volts and the other plate at 15
Volts, yields a field strength of 10 Volts per meter.

 

Going logarithmic is simply a convenience for thinking about widely
differing voltage levels, so again, very straight forward. Of course, you
have to set a reference foe the log scale, so Volts or microvolts are
equally valid.

 

OTOH, mho/cm for a field is pretty obscure to me. Who uses that metric, and
how? 

 

Ed Price
WB6WSN
Chula Vista, CA USA

 

It's about as obscure as using "dBuV/m" for field strength

 

Ralph McDiarmid

Product Compliance

Engineering

Solar Business

Schneider Electric

 

 

From: Ed Price [ <mailto:edpr...@cox.net> mailto:edpr...@cox.net]

Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 5:37 AM

To:  <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Subject: Re: [PSES] Passive Loop Emissions [General Use]

 

Andrew:

 

I thought that S/m was a unit of electrical conductivity, defined as 0.01
mho/cm. This seems like a useless unit for magnetic field strength.

 

I did find one site:

 

 
<http://www.mdltechnologies.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/6512-datasheet.
pdf>
http://www.mdltechnologies.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/6512-datasheet.p
df

 

which provides a side-by-side chart for "dBS/m" and Electric Field Strength
in "dB/m". At 10 kHz, the antenna factor in db/m is about 86 dB, while the
antenna factor in dBS/m is about 35 dB.

 

This sounds like the old relationship of magnetic field strength, in dBuA/m,
to electric field strength, in dBuV/m, of 51.5 dB.

 

Ed Price

WB6WSN

Chula Vista, CA USA

 

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Subject: [PSES] Passive Loop Emissions [General Use]

 

Hi All

 

I need some help in obtaining the correct result.

 

The customer has requested an extended magnetic field emission test over the
range 100kHz to 2MHz with a limit defined in dBpT.

The antenna to be used is an EMCO 6512 which has it correction factors
provided in dBS/m which the emission software used does not recognise.

So is there a conversion factor that enables the right correction factor to
be entered or is the conversion factor only used once a result is obtained??

 

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