Agree vehemently, but also codified per NECA 1-2015, and the various 
workmanship standards of the Vulcan Science Academy. UL508A does not do much 
for 'workmanship', just materials and construction and performance. And do not 
want to see a safety standard that tells me stuff has to be built pretty.

Brian


From: IBM Ken [mailto:ibm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 6:15 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Box Layout on Factory Machines

I think those types of products are engineered once, and then built and 
serviced for decades.  Overly neat designs lend themselves to less problems in 
production and service over the years, even when the original designers are no 
longer available to help.  I don't think there are any criteria which require 
that type of construction (aside from tradition).  It's like asking why every 
facilities engineer has a large keyring, a pocket protector containing no less 
than three writing instruments, and a AA mini Maglite on their belt.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Kunde, Brian <brian_ku...@lecotc.com> wrote:
I notice that most industrial factory machinery is designed with a large metal 
electronic box with a hinged door and some kind of keyed lock. Inside the 
components are DIN mounted and the wiring is all dressed very neatly in these 
gray plastic cable runs with snap-on lids. Every wire is labeled with a small 
tag. 
 
Why are these machines so similar in design?  Even among different 
manufacturers, they look similar.  Is there a standard or standards that 
dictate exactly how this is done?  What criteria is used to determine if your 
product must follow these construction rules?  
 
Seems strange to me that they are so similar and if required to be that way, 
then standards and/or governments are dictating design. Even if it was for the 
“greater-good”, I thought that was a no-no.  Dictate design, stifle creativity, 
invite those who would take advantage for financial gain.
 
Just curious.  I’m most interested in the criteria question, though.
The Other Brian
 

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