The DMM should have better immunity, I suggest. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: 31 July 2017 20:40 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Quasipeak definition I have a Classic 1948 John Deere "M" tractor. I cannot measure the battery voltage (to see if the generator is charging the battery) while the engine is running because the emissions from the ignition is so bad it causes by DMM to malfunction. The Other Brian From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 3:26 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [BULK] Re: [PSES] Quasipeak definition Importance: Low Yeah, I have to fix the ignition in my '69 right now. Maybe I'll replace the condenser while I'm at it. -Dave From: Ghery S. Pettit [mailto:n6...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:39 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] Quasipeak definition True enough, but there are still automobiles out there with old, noisy, ignition systems. Heard an old VW Beetle go by lately? And to think, someone built an OATS near a freeway years ago. What were they thinking? Fortunately, the ignition system in the plane I'm flying to dinner later this afternoon is well suppressed. We still use AM radios in airplanes for communications. Ghery S. Pettit From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 11:34 AM To: 'Ghery S. Pettit'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: RE: [PSES] Quasipeak definition Do we have any products these days that produce such emissions? I'm not sure that a 10 kHz repetition rate ever occurred anyway. For an ignition system, 3000 RPM and 4 four-stroke cylinders only gives 600 Hz. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO - Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. From: Ghery S. Pettit [mailto:n6...@comcast.net] Sent: 31 July 2017 19:16 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] Quasipeak definition The QP detector was designed in the 1930s to simulate the response of the human ear to impulsive interference. The classic example at the time was the interference from ignition systems in automobiles to AM broadcast receivers, both in the car and nearby. A single click is well filtered by the ear and brain, but as the repetition rate goes up the perceived annoyance and interference goes up. By the time the repetition rate has reached 10 kHz the ear/brain combination is really annoyed and the quasi-peak detector and a peak detector respond about the same. Hope this helps. Ghery S. 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