Hi Michael, Thanks, but that means my understanding was not correct :(
Regards, Piotr W dniu 2017-08-02 o 16:10, Michael Derby pisze:
Hi Piotr, You would not have a situation where the RED and the LVD both apply to a product. Product safety for radio devices (transmitter, receiver, transceiver) is covered by Article 3.1a of the RED. So, you assess safety "in a similar way as the LVD", but you do not actually apply the LV Directive. So, no, you should not list the LVD on your RED DoC. Therefore, your understanding in your mail is correct. Thanks, Michael. -----Original Message----- From: Piotr Galka [mailto:piotr.ga...@micromade.pl] Sent: 02 August 2017 14:59 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RED DoC and LVD Dear list members, I'd like to know if the RED DoC should list LVD or not. RED says: 1,4.Radio equipment falling within the scope of this Directive shall not be subject to Directive 2014/35/EU, except as set out in point (a) of Article 3(1) of this Directive. 3,1. Radio equipment shall be constructed so as to ensure: (a) the protection of health and safety of persons and of domestic animals and the protection of property, including the objectives with respect to safety requirements set out in Directive 2014/35/EU, but with no voltage limit applying; Annex V (DoC) 5: relevant Union harmonisation legislation: -RED, - Other Union harmonisation legislation where applicable. I really can't say that being/not being subject to LVD is clear for me here! My understanding: 3,1(a) - protection of persons, animals and property covers really the whole LVD requirements (extending its range on low voltage devices). 1,4 - Radio equipment is not subject to LVD but in aspects from 3,1(a) it is subject to LVD. So, as 3,1(a) covers the whole LVD requirements the RED device is subject to LVD so LVD is applicable and should be listed in RED equipment DoC. May be my understanding stand up from that then till now, I have been reading the RED in Polish version. I have opened English version for first time when I come to copy citations from RED to this post. Translating Polish to English it would be something like that: 1.4 Radio devices ... are not subject to LVD, except cases defined in 3,1(a). The essence of my question is: Do the 'except' in 1.4 should be understand that what is after 'except': - describes aspects of LVD in which the RED devices are subject to LVD, - describes requirements from LVD to be applied to RED devices without understanding that they are subject to LVD. Or may be my mistake is that I don't see what parts of LVD are not covered by 3,1(a). This leads to reading LVD Annex I and selecting points which should be not applied to RED devices as being not covered by 3,1(a) (can be the next question if here the decision would be to go that way). If I can be sure that at least one of points from LVD Annex I is not covered by 3,1(a) than I can understand that RED devices are not subject to LVD and only some points from LVD Annex I should be applied as requirements of applying RED and not requirements of applying LVD. I hope you help in my doubts. Best Regards Piotr Galka MicroMade Poland - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
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