Why would you want to use visible light? Our radiocommunications have an 
infrastructure built on the principle that interference is to be limited. Even 
on the ISM bands, there are rules that are supposed to allow the operation of 
devices without undue interference. We aren't going to start regulating visible 
light sources to allow Li-Fi to work.

The video also shows a very short range demonstration where the speaker can 
easily control the signal to noise ratio. Brighter ambient light would be a 
problem. The speaker gives the example of using streetlights for Li-Fi. I can't 
imagine this working well on a sunny day.

We also know how current wireless technologies work. As you increase the 
frequency, you can increase the data rate. However, you generally reduce the 
range and you become more subject to light of sight limitations. Visible light 
takes this to the extreme.

I generally discount TED talks. My personal opinion is that there is some 
amount of snake oil being sold in TED talks.

Ted Eckert
Microsoft Corporation

The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my 
employer, TED LLC, or anybody else named Ted.

From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 8:41 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Li-Fi


LED light can indeed be modulated very quickly.  Isn't that how fibre-optic 
cable works?

John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

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Rayleigh, Essex UK
On 2017-12-11 16:20, Ralph McDiarmid wrote:

I haven't studied it, but seems to me that one would need to modulate the light 
very quickly to get any sort of usable BAUD rate, unless you settle for 
transmission of text only.  (like the good old Bell 202 modems over voice band 
land lines)



Ralph McDiarmid

Product Compliance

Engineering

Solar Business

Schneider Electric





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From: Amund Westin [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no]

Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 12:51 AM

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Subject: [PSES] Li-Fi



I came over this video ....

https://www.ted.com/talks/harald_haas_a_breakthrough_new_kind_of_wireless_internet#t-432451<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ted.com%2Ftalks%2Fharald_haas_a_breakthrough_new_kind_of_wireless_internet%23t-432451&data=04%7C01%7Cted.eckert%40microsoft.com%7C4d0b39f6f9484d19a7ba08d540b61122%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636486073080275097%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwifQ%3D%3D%7C-1&sdata=WGrkxJCV%2FDatgwud6JxgxKCUYaZWockEpMDDlA%2BpQm8%3D&reserved=0>



Anyone who have studied this tech?



Cheers,

Amund



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