Thank you for the clarification. On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, 12:47 am John Woodgate, <j...@woodjohn.uk> wrote:
> GPS applies to anything; that's why is called 'General...'. Anything can fall > within more than one Directive, in fact all electrical products fall > within both LVD and EMCD, as well as GPSD. > > BS 136X connectors are used outside the UK; the EU is not relevant to > that. > > John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only > J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk > Rayleigh, Essex UK > > On 2018-07-15 17:33, Scott Xe wrote: > > The product is for UK market only since 13A rectangular pins. I believe > only UK uses this type of plug within EU. As far as I remember, a couple > of such product reviews raised this concern in the past but I did not know > the BS standard does not prohibit it. I am uncomfortable with such design > if it meets the standard. > > > > According to LVD guidance, this type of product falls into LVD, not GPS. > John, how does this product relate to GPS? > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Scott > > > > *From: *John Woodgate <j...@woodjohn.uk> <j...@woodjohn.uk> > *Date: *Sunday, 15 July 2018 at 10:53 PM > *To: *Scott Xe <scott...@gmail.com> <scott...@gmail.com>, > <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > *Subject: *Re: [PSES] Safety design of shutter opening > > > > I believe that no-one thought of the possibility of a design that allowed > that incorrect insertion. It is known to the responsible BSI committee, but > of course it takes time for the standard to be amended. Until it is, > conformity to the existing standard cannot be denied. However, the > marketing of such a device might violate the GPS Directive in Europe, > although that is not certain because unshuttered sockets are legal in some > EU/EFTA countries. Since it only affects those countries that use the > BS136X system, the appropriate regulatory action may be problematical. > > John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only > > J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk > > Rayleigh, Essex UK > > On 2018-07-15 14:52, Scott Xe wrote: > > I received a sample of portable extension sockets with a compliance > certificate of BS 1363-2. It is noted the slim enclosure design allows the > mains plugs to be inserted into the sockets up-side-down by mistake. In > such circumstance, only the earth pin is inserted and the plug opens the > shutter of L and N terminals posting the risk to access the L and N > terminals with a test pin. It is a foreseeable misuse but seems no breach > of the safety standard. Can someone share why it can be tolerated by the > standard? > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Scott > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to < > emc-p...@ieee.org> > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html > > Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at > http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in > well-used formats), large files, etc. > > Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to > unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com> > > > > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
