That's a bit dodgy, Pete. The EU product must be for 230 V mains, so the
NRTL won't cover safety test with 230 V 50 Hz input. There may be issues
with different EMC standards, as well.
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
On 2018-08-30 17:46, Peter E Perkins wrote:
James & PSnet folks,
I could envision a scenario that could be more comfortable for
all. If the same product was sold worldwide and bore a US NRTL (UL,
etc) mark along with the CE marking then the importer would know that
the factory was having quarterly construction inspections. At the
Euro end just audit the incoming and ensure that the US NRTL mark
continues to appear on the product. there are still outstanding
issues but the largest exposure is covered.
:>) br, Pete
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Subject: Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities
Head in hands – and liability insurance paper in back pocket (hopefully)!
*From:*James Pawson (U3C) [mailto:ja...@unit3compliance.co.uk
<mailto:ja...@unit3compliance.co.uk?>]
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*Subject:* Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities
Charlie, John, thanks for the insightful feedback as always.
The latest email from the manufacturer doesn’t do much to inspire
confidence!
James
*From:*Charlie Blackham <char...@sulisconsultants.com
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*Sent:* 30 August 2018 10:29
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*Subject:* Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities
Completely agree
The importer can do all the testing on the 1^st sample, but then the
manufacturer can make whatever they like with impunity and the
importer takes on all the manufacturer change control risk for ongoing
compliance without any means of controlling or monitoring it.
Barge pole at the ready
regards
Charlie
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Run, do not walk, away from this manufacturer. Either they are
dangerously unaware of the EU requirements, or they are deliberately
avoiding commitment.
John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
J M Woodgate and Associateswww.woodjohn.uk <http://www.woodjohn.uk>
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On 2018-08-30 08:48, James Pawson (U3C) wrote:
Hello all,
I’m working with a company who are importing some IT products from
China to the EU. The Chinese manufacturer is taking a very much
“hands off” approach to approvals, expecting the importer to draw
up the DoC and perform much of the testing. However access to the
parts of the Technical File that detail product construction are
being held by the manufacturer and getting access to these is not
straightforward.
My question is: provided that all the documentation boxes are
ticked and the product has been sufficiently assessed, can one
reasonably take on responsibilities for other actors in the supply
chain in this manner?
I’m undecided if this is acceptable. My feeling is that whilst it
is not to the letter of the law, it is to the spirit and would be
acceptable depending on the importers tolerance to risk. However
the letter of the directives is explicit in determining
responsibilities e.g. that the manufacturer shall draw up the DoC.
I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the matter.
Thanks and all the best
James
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