Andrew, Thanx for the pointer to this proposed comprehensive Brexit update to the UK Legislation. This was a lot of work pulling this together. Hopefully it will be used to provide a smooth transition from the present CE marked equipment to the new UK marking.
I searched it thoroughly for the new replacement marking for CE (UK marking) and primarily found a reference to some other legislation; nowhere did I find a symbolic representation for the marking. So the actual marking seems still in doubt. I still like my combo approach – ukCEeu – which brings the requirements together in the same way that the usNRTLc marking does for North America. However, Gert’s unique proposal seems intriguing; the letters UK could be shown in the Bowler Hat but I would insist on maintaining the mustache. :>) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant PO Box 23427 Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 503/452-1201 IEEE Life Fellow <mailto:p.perk...@ieee.org> p.perk...@ieee.org From: Andrew Wood <andrew.w...@ametek.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 2:28 AM To: Pete Perkins <peperkin...@cs.com>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Brexit requirements for UK manufacturers. Just to clear up a bit of confusion (whilst staying well clear of politics) The link given by Scott ie http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2019/9780111176368/schedule/25 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.legislation.gov.uk_ukdsi_2019_9780111176368_schedule_25&d=DwMFaQ&c=4Wq-glnrtRfJm80jXLZl8g&r=SutJAoHIYf-NiICmGTlfKdUzkvlvaPBEJjZuVg06iyw&m=TAMR-N5xXLQ8ntY-TivCpWr5EtO670o5pxOvEwVKlw4&s=i2G28X6nRmu5NWsp2BqoPi-SQ-PTVzJhYy74n0hoUzg&e=> Is to the 619 page draft legislation, but the link takes you straight to Schedule 25 which is for the ATEX information. Using the navigation options you can open the entire document as a web page or pdf. The aim of this document is a quick fix in the event of no further deals or agreements. It is a document to amend a series of existing regulations and makes the bare minimum changes. For ATEX, Schedule 25 amends the Equipment and Protective Systems Intended for use in Potentially Explosive Atmospheres Regulations 2016. The 28 pages of changes can be summarised as: * Harmonised standards (published in the OJ) become Designated standards approved by the Secretary of State * Notified Bodies become Approved Bodies (and the Nando database is replaced by a UK equivalent) * EU Declaration of Conformity drops “EU” to become a Declaration of Conformity * CE mark is replaced by UK mark. There are various other minor logical changes referring to instructions being in English etc and generally changing references from EU to UK. The basic structure and approval process seems to be as close as practical to the existing requirements. A very quick look suggests that there are similar changes for the following Regulations that might be of interest: Machinery Safety in Schedule 12 EMC in schedule 20 LVD in schedule 23 Pressure equipment in schedule 24 Radio equipment in schedule 29 The deal rejected earlier this week relates to the withdrawal agreement, which aimed to establish a transition period (so that for example the UK would carry on using the CE mark and the EU Notified Bodies would keep their status etc etc in return for a series of rights and obligations on both sides) The 619 draft legislation is the default position (for product safety etc) if there is nothing else decided in the meantime. Andy Best Regards, Andrew Wood Compliance Manager - Hazardous Areas Visit the NEW SPOT Thermometer website at www.spotthermometer.com <http://www.landinst.com/products/viralert-fever-screening-system/overview> LAND Instruments International | Stubley Lane, Dronfield, Derbyshire, S18 1DJ, England DDI: +44 (0)1246 581592 | E-mail: <mailto:andrew.w...@ametek.com> andrew.w...@ametek.com| Web: www.landinst.com <http://www.landinst.com/> From: Pete Perkins <00000061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org <mailto:00000061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> > Sent: 16 January 2019 19:47 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] Brexit requirements for UK manufacturers. ***NOTICE*** This came from an external source. Use caution when replying, clicking links, or opening attachments. Scott et al, I haven’t read the 600+ UK legislation report (which was apparently rejected this week in the Parliament) but I am searching for the new UK marking – perhaps ukCEeu? :>) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant PO Box 23427 Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 503/452-1201 IEEE Life Fellow <mailto:p.perk...@ieee.org> p.perk...@ieee.org From: Scott Xe <scott...@gmail.com <mailto:scott...@gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 5:57 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] Brexit requirements for UK manufacturers. Hi Ian, Your assumption is correct but may have more than your thought. You can read the following draft for greater detail. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2019/9780111176368/schedule/25 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.legislation.gov.uk_ukdsi_2019_9780111176368_schedule_25&d=DwMFaQ&c=4Wq-glnrtRfJm80jXLZl8g&r=SutJAoHIYf-NiICmGTlfKdUzkvlvaPBEJjZuVg06iyw&m=TAMR-N5xXLQ8ntY-TivCpWr5EtO670o5pxOvEwVKlw4&s=i2G28X6nRmu5NWsp2BqoPi-SQ-PTVzJhYy74n0hoUzg&e=> I have learnt that recently the UK government published draft Regulations of 619 pages in case of no deal Brexit. Unfortunately, I could not locate it yet. Hope other team mates can help to explore greater info. Thanks and regards, Scott Sent from Mail <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__go.microsoft.com_fwlink_-3FLinkId-3D550986&d=DwMFaQ&c=4Wq-glnrtRfJm80jXLZl8g&r=SutJAoHIYf-NiICmGTlfKdUzkvlvaPBEJjZuVg06iyw&m=TAMR-N5xXLQ8ntY-TivCpWr5EtO670o5pxOvEwVKlw4&s=tNgLpR60YYVpkOf-LesloJ5ciMT0fkI6ChjUwtZLiE4&e=> for Windows 10 From: McBurney, Ian <mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2019 08:55 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] Brexit requirements for UK manufacturers. Dear Colleagues. I have been waiting for some firm guidelines as to what will be the requirements for UK manufacturers after 30th March 2019 but so far nothing has been published by the relevant authorities. >From my understanding, if the UK leaves the EU without an agreement, the UK >will be outside the EU and there are different requirements for UK based >manufacturers. I believe the existing manufacturers Declaration of conformity documents will still be valid but that a nominated representative in the EU will now be required. We plan to nominate our distributor in the EU (i.e. Germany) as the importer to satisfy this requirement. Please can you let me know if my assumptions are correct? Thanks in advance. Ian McBurney Lead Compliance Engineer Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK. Tel: 01326 372070 Email: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com <mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> Allen & Heath Ltd is a registered business in England and Wales, Company number: 4163451. Any views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the company. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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