Hi Ian,
That’s correct. In the past, the FCC logo was mandatory if you followed the old DoC route, and forbidden if you did not follow the old DoC route. Many people got that wrong. So nowadays, if you follow the sDoC route, the logo is now optional for you. Thanks, Michael. From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: 05 February 2019 13:16 To: Michael Derby <micha...@acbcert.com>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] UK Gov Using The UKCA Mark Hello Michael. Am I right in believing that you can now affix the FCC logo to products when using the sDoc scheme? Kind regards; Ian McBurney Lead Compliance Engineer Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK. Tel: 01326 372070 Email: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com <mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com> From: Michael Derby <micha...@acbcert.com <mailto:micha...@acbcert.com> > Sent: 05 February 2019 11:15 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] UK Gov Using The UKCA Mark Anyone with a test site that meets the requirements of ANSI C63.4. :) Michael. From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: 05 February 2019 10:52 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] UK Gov Using The UKCA Mark Glyn For sDoC... there is no requirement to be accredited, nor listed on the FCC website. So, anyone can do sDoC testing. Regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: <https://outlook.hslive.net/owa/redir.aspx?C=02be3bf3e3a544d1bdf7b6c99fbd12f5&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sulisconsultants.com%2f> www.sulisconsultants.com Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Payne, Glyn <00000d283c0acebb-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org <mailto:00000d283c0acebb-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> > Sent: 05 February 2019 10:41 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] UK Gov Using The UKCA Mark Hi John, Won’t the lack of a MRA with the US effect the FCC SDoC route when getting emission scans done in labs that are accredited by UKAS? Regards, Glyn Payne Validation and Compliance Engineer Solid State Logic - UK Headquarters <http://www.solidstatelogic.com/> www.solidstatelogic.com <https://www.facebook.com/SolidStateLogic.SSL/> Facebook : <https://twitter.com/solidstatelogic> Twitter : <https://www.youtube.com/user/SSLvideos> Youtube 25 Spring Hill Road | Begbroke | Oxfordshire | OX5 1RU | UK t: +44 1865 664894 | m: +44 7989 163937 From: John Woodgate <j...@woodjohn.uk <mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk> > Reply-To: John Woodgate <j...@woodjohn.uk <mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk> > Date: Tuesday, 5 February 2019 at 10:23 To: <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Subject: Re: [PSES] UK Gov Using The UKCA Mark Goods arriving in the UK should not be in trouble. UK recognizes the CE Mark on March 29 and there is no reason to stop recognizing it on March 30. Goods leaving the UK for the EU are in a different position IF a UK-only Notified Body is involved in determining compliance. For many products, there is no need for Notified Body involvement, and many Notified Bodies are not UK-only but widely-based in the western world. This scenario applies only if there is a 'no-deal' Brexit, and in that case it is up to the UK and EU to decide independently what marking to accept and for how long. We can hope that common sense will prevail, but it might not. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk <http://www.woodjohn.uk> Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2019-02-05 09:59, Scott Xe wrote: I fully agree on the Ken's concern. How can the manufactures change the logos and relevant documents of the goods arrive in the UK post Brexit of 30/03/2019? UK will suffer short of goods in next few months. Does UK plan to cope with it? Regards, Scott On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 01:51, Kapur, Ken <ken.ka...@thermofisher.com <mailto:ken.ka...@thermofisher.com> > wrote: Hi John, These new requirements with the UKCA mark will be a significant burden on industry, if a MRA can be established, it would help significantly. There are still lot’s of questions about the UKCA marking and how it gets implemented. Considering a no-deal Brexit: getting any relabeling to happen will definitely take a lot of time. Hopefully, there will be no new testing and existing standards would be accepted. Will there be an 18 month transition? Will there be a different set of requirements for products shipping EU to UK versus from other countries? Best Regards, Ken Kapur Director, Compliance Thermo Fisher Scientific Mobile: 408-685-1454 From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk <mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk> ] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2019 8:42 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] UK Gov Using The UKCA Mark CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. We need to get a Mutual Recognition Agreement as soon as possible. I'm surprised that the UK Gov document doesn't even mention the possibility. It ought to be very easy, because on March 28 the UK NBs were accredited to EU and they didn't suddenly become incompetent on March 29. The problem is pure petty bureaucracy (and spite!). Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.woodjohn.uk&d=DwMD-g&c=q6k2DsTcEGCcCb_WtVSz6hhIl8hvYssy7sH8ZwfbbKU&r=ceEGfRfAATRLvrDpw-fh33haojLMnxrxQT1JC9iGxE0&m=hVktUUt1U8CsKszyFHFBIEja8xbn-HQ9G9Rz7WpP_xM&s=8_tiH1iTW2cHAy2l5CyW_ij_WM6U5wSf2lOHCIK2Pq4&e=> Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2019-02-04 14:37, Mark Bailey wrote: All, Just received the following link from a colleague, using the UKCA marking if the UK leaves the EU without a deal. Links to part of the “[PSES] Brexit requirements for UK manufacturers” a couple of weeks ago. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/prepare-to-use-the-ukca-mark-after-brexit/using-the-ukca-marking-if-the-uk-leaves-the-eu-without-a-deal <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.gov.uk_government_publications_prepare-2Dto-2Duse-2Dthe-2Dukca-2Dmark-2Dafter-2Dbrexit_using-2Dthe-2Dukca-2Dmarking-2Dif-2Dthe-2Duk-2Dleaves-2Dthe-2Deu-2Dwithout-2Da-2Ddeal&d=DwMD-g&c=q6k2DsTcEGCcCb_WtVSz6hhIl8hvYssy7sH8ZwfbbKU&r=ceEGfRfAATRLvrDpw-fh33haojLMnxrxQT1JC9iGxE0&m=hVktUUt1U8CsKszyFHFBIEja8xbn-HQ9G9Rz7WpP_xM&s=i0ZXkM9Zmf_uujamKeIAx-RjkvLqyIk-_gK7VzLTpqw&e=> BR Mark Bailey IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail message is intended to be received only by persons entitled to receive the confidential information it may contain. E-mail messages to clients of Telensa may contain information that is confidential and legally privileged. 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