& PS: Something I should have mentioned about how some companies treat their contractors /consultants doing this sort of work.
Like mushrooms they are often "kept in the dark and fed on "you know what"!", i.e. the companies don't (often just plain "can't") provide the contractor /consultant with all the info that should be in the compliance files -> GIGO situation! John E Allen W. London, UK From: John E Allen <000009cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> Sent: 16 October 2021 10:36 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety Compliance Testing: It's A Business, So Shop Around Good morning all. I printed out the article, read it quite closely and can only agree with 95%+ of what the author wrote - the notable exception being the paragraph on the 1st page beginning "CE is all about ."!!!! Like many of you guys, whilst in "gainful employment" I did a LOT of "CE compliance" work for various companies, generally as an employee - but sometimes as a contractor/ consultant and, from my own experience, I can say that employing one of the latter to do the work is potentially a very "risky" approach! As most of us know (or should by now!), it is the company's, not the contractor's /consultant's, legal responsibility to ensure that the CE compliance files are complete and correct and do demonstrate that the legal requirements have been met - and there's the big risk in employing a contractors/consultant to do the legwork to create them. Unless that person has been working for the company for long enough to really know and understand how the company systems work - especially in the areas of design, development and materials control & manufacturing - then he/she won't know the "whole story" behind the product & project. Therefore he/she is very likely to miss critical issues that could affect whether the final compliance documentation actually reflects the way in which the product has been designed & built and whether it actually meets the requirements of the "CE compliance" regulations & standards. Most contractors/consultants that are brought into a company for a specific time/cost constrained compliance project won't know "all of that", and therefore the company is at risk of signing off on faulty documentation and leaving themselves open to possible legal action in the future... John E Allen W. London, UK From: Richard Nute <ri...@ieee.org <mailto:ri...@ieee.org> > Sent: 15 October 2021 19:34 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] Safety Compliance Testing: It's A Business, So Shop Around <<...>> I found this article to be very interesting. It may be useful to you. Stay safe, and best regards, Rich - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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