GFCI = Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter
RCD = Residual Current Device In North America, GFCI’s typically are included in an outlet that is part of a branch circuit. The GFCI may have a number of outlets downstream. Under normal conditions, the residual leakage current in the downstream outlets and equipment connected to them is not zero, and can be a significant portion of the 5 mA (nominal) trip current. So, when a person gets across the GFCI-protected branch circuit and causes a trip, the current through the body is the difference between the residual leakage current and the 5 ma trip current. So, in such cases, the body current can be much less than the 5 mA trip current. The same is the case for the 30 mA RCD in Europe. However, the RCD is installed in the breaker panel for an entire branch circuit, not a portion of the branch circuit. So, the residual leakage current is higher, maybe as much as twice that of North America. And, the voltage, 230, is about twice, so the leakage current due to the higher voltage is almost twice that of North America. Using these numbers, the European trip equivalent to the 5 mA trip would be about 20 mA or more. However, the RCD is rated at 30 mA, so when a person gets across an RCD-protected circuit, the body current will be much less than the 30 mA trip current. Rich From: Pete Perkins <00000061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 1:58 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Machinery Leakage Current Mike, et al, Thanx for mentioning my name; by now you should be able to tell the stories as we’ve talked thru these things before. From my experience, protection is primarily needed for cord and plug connected equipment where the earthing/grounding is not considered reliable – which includes North America. Most such equipment is allowed to have higher touch current under fault conditions, where the fault current exceeds 5ma the GFCI provides the needed protection Since GFCIs look for the ‘lost to ground current’, the differential current in the power cord, they also work in circumstances where the earth/ground doesn’t exist (a 2-wire installation) or where it should exist but doesn’t. Many are installed in older 2-wire installations because of this in the USA. RCDs rated to trip at 30mA are working right at the c1 Ventricular Fibrillation level of IEC 60479-1 so should provide that protection for most people. Not sure if RCDs are tested or rated for catching performance degradation in machines but you apparently have experience with that. It would be nice to see a paper on that performance feature. North American GFCIs are rated at 5mA which is the letgo-immobilization limit specified in IEC 60479-1. (Yes, I know the allowable range is not trip at 4mA but must trip at 6mA; the rated trip current is still 5mA.) You can still disengage from the current at that level, providing that level of protection. Both North American GFCIs and Euro RCDs are not rated to deal well with high frequency signals generated by Switch Mode Power Supplies and Variable Speed Drives for motors. Lots of ‘nuisance tripping’ results. There is an ongoing UL project to get a handle on this and get it fixed here in NA. Yes, EV chargers are being provided with GFCIs at higher levels, depending upon the installation/application parameters. :>) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant PO Box 1067 Albany, ORe 97321-0413 503/452-1201 IEEE Life Fellow IEEE PSES 2020 Distinguished Lecturer <http://www.researchgate.net/Peter%20Perkins> www.researchgate.net search my name <mailto:p.perk...@ieee.org> p.perk...@ieee.org Entropy ain’t what it used to be - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>