Some thirty years ago, the keynote speaker at an IEEE EMC symposium in the USA was a noted medical researcher working on the long term health effects of exposure to EM fields (neurological as opposed to simply thermal effects).
In substance, what he said was we evolved to live with certain levels of EM field exposure (obviously a few hundred thousand years before Hertz and Marconi). He went on to say that you couldn’t hide in a shield room, either, on account of we evolved in a non-zero EM field environment, so no EM fields was also not good. When I hear things like this – another example being a paleo diet – I am struck by the fact that what we evolved to be was a being that was old at age 35. Neanderthals were not the monsters their discoverer’s pieced together – they were all crippled up with arthritis and/or rheumatism sleeping on the ground or in cold caves. You can live a fairly unhealthy lifestyle and still make it to age 35 – barring catastrophic injury or illness, the warranty is in effect. After that, it does depend on personal habits, genes and the environment, but the idea that how we evolved has much effect on life past 35 seems a bit of a stretch. I am reminded of one of those old velvet paintings/posters you’d find at garage sales and flea markets. Some old cowboy, a lot the worse for wear, missing some teeth and so on, with the caption, “If I’d known I was going to live this long, I’d taken better care of myself.” -- Ken Javor (256) 650-5261 From: Richard Nute <ri...@ieee.org> Reply-To: <ri...@ieee.org> Date: Thursday, July 27, 2023 at 1:07 PM To: <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] Woodgate's reply on residential Immunity field strength I’m a product safety engineer. This discussion is based upon a safety standard specifying a limit for the accessible electric field strength. Doug Smith said: “These days we think 10 V/m is dangerous.“ See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3553569/ This article (with scholarly research annotated) essentially says that we don’t know the effects of electric and magnetic fields on the body. It cites 0.4 uT (>100 V/m) as a potential limit for children. Doug goes on to cite his experience with exposure to 100 times 100 V/m with no ill effects. I wonder how the standards writers came up with limiting field strength when there is no definitive bodily injury? Probably BOGSAT. Best regards, Rich ps: Field strength conversion calculator: https://www.compeng.com.au/field-strength-calculator/ This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: https://www.mail-archive.com/emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org/ Website: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/ Instructions: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Sherman at: msherma...@comcast.net Rick Linford at: linf...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher at: j.bac...@ieee.org To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: https://www.mail-archive.com/emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org/ Website: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/ Instructions: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Sherman at: msherma...@comcast.net Rick Linford at: linf...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> _________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1