Wow!  Thank you so much for the link.  The amps on ebay looks pretty 
much exactly what I am looking for.  I looked at the datasheet for the 
issue with the drive inputs being commoned at +5V like you pointed out, 
but I'm pretty sure I can hack up something to deal with that, like run 
the signals through a microcontroller to do whatever translation is 
necessary.  I especially like that they are all mounted in a nice box 
for me already :-)

Getting closer.  Mesa card + Servo Amps are picked out.  Keling motors 
look good.

Do you know if that amt102-v encoder need anything special to mount on 
the back of a NEMA 23 brushless motor like an adapter plate or anything 
like that?  Or do encoders and motors have standard mounting patterns so 
that all encoders fit all motors nicely?

Yesterday I had no idea what I needed to buy or even what questions to 
ask, and today everything looks doable.



sam sokolik wrote:
> there are always deals if you are patient.  Like...
> *KL23BLS-115* <KL23BLS_115.pdf>*: $52/pcs brushless servos
> digikey amt102-v encoder 29.95. <-up to 2048 line - adjustable.
> ebay 3 amc amplifiers that take pwm+dir
> http://cgi.ebay.com/3-AXIS-A-M-C-PWM-Brushless-SERVO-AMPLIFIER-ASSEMBLY-NEW_W0QQitemZ260516353589QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca7fc1635
> 179.95
>
> Not including shipping for 3 axis...  (not including mesa hardware)
> $425.80
> closed loop - priceless... ;)
>
> You would want to do your homework though - like the drive inputs seem 
> to be common-ed to +5v.  (probably not an issue)
> (if I did the math right)
> sam
>
>
> *
> On 1/7/2010 01:29 PM, Flying Electron wrote:
>   
>> I'm deciding on what servo drive to use with the mesa FPGA card and it
>> doesn't look too bad since there are not too many low cost options.  I'm
>> constrained to a NEMA 23 size motor since a NEMA 23 stepper is on the
>> machine right now and I want it to be a direct swap.  So far I've found
>> from searching on google and from people's suggestions here on the
>> mailing list:
>>
>> Drives
>> -------
>> [brushless] Pico Brushless PWM Servo Amp $150
>> [brushed] Pico PWM Servo Amplifier $125
>>
>> Motors
>> --------
>> [brushless] Pico Size 23 Brushless Servo (61ozin continous, 180ozin
>> peak, 1000 CPR) $120
>> [brushless] Keling KL23BLS-115 Brushless Servo (61ozin continous, 180
>> ozin peak, 1000 CPR) $134
>> [brushed]  Keling KL23-130-60 Brushed Servo (50ozin continous, 350ozin
>> peak, 1000 CPR) $162
>>
>> Not Suitable
>> -------------
>> dmm-tech.com -- RS232 based communication not PWM
>> gecko               -- EMC2 cannot control PID loop (step/dir input, not
>> pwm)
>> viper                 -- EMC2 cannot control PID loop (step/dir input,
>> not pwm)
>> rutex                 -- EMC2 cannot control PID loop (step/dir input,
>> not pwm)
>>
>> Most of the servo drives I have found have the PID loop built into
>> them.  Is this the normal case?
>>
>> Is it possible to run a brushed DC servo with just a simple H-Bridge
>> controlled directly by the PWM output and a direction signal?  I was
>> looking at the Freescale MC33886 which I think could make a very simple
>> and cheap H-Bridge.
>> http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=MC33886VW-ND
>> <http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=MC33886VW-ND>
>>
>> Anybody know of any companies or products I may have missed in my search?
>>
>>
>>
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