On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 12:36:44PM -0600, Jon Elson wrote:
> >   
> What does this time constant actually mean?  Is is a response to changes 
> in velocity?
> That seems to be the only thing I can figure out it means.  If EMC is 
> sampling position at 1 ms intervals, then 400 us is 2.5 time constants, 
> so the velocity error should be pretty small.

Yes, that's what I inferred; a delayed response to acceleration. Your
direct and second hand experience (quoted below) seems to confirm my
sneaking suspicions. (Drat that thinking! ;-)

Erik wrote:
> > It would be nice to be able to fit encoders to 3 axes on a
> > woodworking machine for the price of one axis with US Digital
> > encoders, but what's the stability like?

> I have put these encoders on the Keling motor, and gotten the servo loop 
> to work, using my own servo amps.  I DID notice the stability margin is 
> less than with some other motor/encoder combinations.  The Keling motors 
> have VERY light rotors, and so I added just a little mass to the motor 
> by mounting a small shaft extension, and it helped quite a bit.  I would 
> assume this is a lot less angular momentum than even a small leadscrew.
> 
> I also had a customer who was experimenting with a very high 
> acceleration machine, and I believe he will eventually abandon the CUI 
> encoders.  He was accelerating at something like 10000 rad/sec^2, which 
> is really high acceleration, though.  Currently, he has cut the 
> acceleration rates to prevent missing counts.

Looks like you've already done the research which my snoopy mind just
thought prudent. Grateful thanks for the practical insight into the
stability limits. _Where_ it would become a problem is what I couldn't
guess from that datasheet. I take your point that too much motor and
too little load inertia is needed to create trouble. That's very
comforting for me, but perhaps your customer is/was trying to push peas
up too steep a hill.

Thanks again.

Erik

-- 
If you understand what you're doing, you're not learning anything.
                                                                 - A. L.


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