On 6/5/2011 1:50 PM, dave wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 13:13 -0400, Dave wrote:
>    
>> On 6/5/2011 10:58 AM, dave wrote:
>>      
>>> Hi all,
>>> IRC seems pretty dead this morning so I'll try here.
>>>
>>> I seem to remember cradek doing a velocity to dac signal to emulate a
>>> tach. However I cannot seem to find documentation.
>>> Board is a 5I20 running hm2 so the velocity signal should be there.
>>> I just need the hal commands to get started.
>>>
>>> I've been using a Keling 750 W servo motor with a 2:1 and a 10 mm pitch
>>> ballscrew to drive the Z on my Cinci contourmaster. In torque mode I
>>> have stability problems; I finally ended up getting the following error
>>> down to about .002 ... pretty bad .. and that is after about 8 hours of
>>> tuning!  This is usable for some things but doesn't do well for
>>> contours.
>>>
>>> Plan 1. go to velocity mode and add a tach. The tach is low output.
>>> only about 2.5 V/1000 rpm. For some reason I can't get the system
>>> stable. When enabled it oscillates for a few seconds and faults.
>>> That is with the analog input at zero (shorted).
>>> I've moved the tach gain all over the place with no luck so far.
>>>
>>>
>>> Plan 2. add the synthetic tach as per cradek.
>>>
>>> Plan 3. install a SEM servo motor with a known tach output.
>>> The X axis of this machine already has an SEM so I  know it will
>>> work. :-)
>>>
>>> I'm open to ideas and opinions.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>        
>> Forgetting about EMC2 for a moment;
>>
>> With the drive in velocity mode, if you short the analog to input the
>> Servo drive you should be able to adjust the zero offset and gain so the
>> motor is somewhere between dead still to creeping.  No oscillating.
>>      
> Exactly!
>
> So back to the drawing board. ;-)
>    
>> If you can't do that you have a drive/motor/encoder and that will not be
>> resolvable with EMC2 tuning.
>>
>> How many encoder counts do you have per rev?
>>      
> 2500 cpr or 10K in quadrature.
>
> At Peter's suggestion I checked the servo cycle.
> servo cycle was set at 250000. I think I tried faster setting when I was
> originally tuning but got errors.
>
> dave
>    
>

2500 cpr is plenty ..  the drive and motor should be very stable without 
EMC2 connected.
EMC2 won't be able to control that properly until the drive/motor itself 
is stable, otherwise the motor will go off and do its own thing 
(oscillate out of position) and EMC2 will fault out due to following errors.

>>So back to the drawing board. ;-)

Unfortunately...

Dave




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