On 11/17/2011 5:21 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
> On 11/16/2011 01:28 PM, Dave wrote:
>    
>> Looks like most of the Datron mills actually have solid granite bases -
>> most of them are not a composite polymer-granite dust mix.
>>
>> I have bought some epoxy resin to repair boat hulls and the best price I
>> can find for non-blushing epoxy resin is about $75 per gallon including
>> the hardener with shipping.
>> So a gravel/epoxy composite or granite dust/expoxy composite frame is
>> going to be a lot more expensive than basic concrete which is going for
>> about $150 per cubic yard around here delivered in a mix truck.
>>
>> Making an epoxy/gravel composite would also take some experimenting as
>> epoxy tends to self  heat as it is sets and it can get very hot.   I
>> have no idea how they control curing in thicker structures with
>> epoxy.  I have had a cup of mixed epoxy get so hot, that I was not able
>> to hold onto to it.  (too much activator in the mix).   The hotter it
>> gets during a cure, the faster it sets so it can become a tail chasing
>> exercise on thicker parts.
>> That is why most boat hulls are laid up in thin layers - usually less
>> than 1/8th inch per layer.
>>
>> Andy....  I think we got these old imperial measurements from you
>> guys!     Apparently we are rather resistant to change.    But I'm still
>> waiting for the UK to adopt the Euro...any day now .. right??    ;-)
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>      
> Dave,
>
> There are application epoxies that are designed to cure in bulk, and do
> not exhibit the high heat generation that a typical laminating epoxy
> does when mixed up and kept in a container in large amounts.  The epoxy
> I used to use to make molds and plugs was a greenish color and had metal
> dust and a few other additives in it to make the final product strong.
> Had a very slow cure rate, something like 48 hours for the initial cure,
> and then you had to finish with a heat cure to get to the final
> hardness.  Prior to the heat cure, the epoxy never got much warmer than
> a human's body heat.
>
> Laminating epoxies, like the ones you mentioned above, have much shorter
> cure times, because they use the exothermic heat generated by the
> chemical reaction to hasten the cure, moreso than the much, much slower
> curing molding epoxy like I use.  Of course, there are laminating
> epoxies that don't quite fit that mold (no pun intended), like the Epon
> epoxy I use to glue up the bamboo rods that I make.  That epoxy has a 7
> day cure at 65 degrees F, though you can, and I do, heat cure it.
>
> Mark
>
>    

Very interesting.... I am always learning things from this list.  :-)

Thanks,

Dave

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