I entirely agree.
There is nothing wrong with the forum as it is.
The CNCZone is not open and could go to a paid subscription service in a 
heartbeat.

Dave

On 1/24/2012 9:56 AM, John Thornton wrote:
> Why on earth would you want to close down the LinuxCNC forum and shift
> to a commercial laden for profit forum? There is nothing more annoying
> that waiting for all the commercials to load and clutter up your screen
> at the zone. Do you work for or derive profit the zone?
>
> John
>
> On 1/24/2012 7:47 AM, Sven Wesley wrote:
>    
>> 2012/1/24 gene heskett<ghesk...@wdtv.com>
>>
>>      
>>> On Monday, January 23, 2012 11:57:10 PM Jeff Epler did opine:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Michael,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to address your concerns over the quality of the rebranding
>>>> changes and the degree of consideration that they were given before they
>>>> were made.  I can speak only for myself here, and I have my "linuxcnc
>>>> developer" hat on as I write this..
>>>>
>>>> I don't have any trouble admitting that some of the changes I've pushed
>>>> to v2.5_branch since the announcement may have been hasty and may
>>>> require fine-tuning, if not outright reversion.  Personally, I felt like
>>>> a huge burden had been lifted from me by the announcement; now I could
>>>> finally *do something* about this problem that has been hanging over our
>>>> project for months.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, I still think the approach of starting by renaming
>>>> stuff and then fixing what broke was the right one.  If I had waited to
>>>> push the changes until they were perfect, collaborating with my fellow
>>>> developers would have been more difficult.
>>>>
>>>> Also in retrospect, a rebranding branch would have been a good idea
>>>> (allowing collaboration while not leaving v2.5_branch unstable for days
>>>> and days) but that, too, is water under the bridge.  Starting a branch
>>>> now will not benefit anyone, since v2.5_branch would be just as broken
>>>> as it is now until the rebranding branch was merged. (and reverting the
>>>> v2.5_branch to before the rebranding seems a very severe choice, because
>>>> many people have already pulled these commits)
>>>>
>>>> The v2.5_branch is actually in pretty good shape now, AFAIK.  Where it's
>>>> not, let's talk about and address the specific technical issues.
>>>>
>>>> I hope that you will continue in supporting and contributing to our
>>>> project.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>          
>> I both agree and disagree.
>> I do think that LinuxCNC is a better name than EMC2, but I think a renaming
>> process could have been handled differently.
>> I also think that the communication and evolution of EMC2/LinuxCNC has
>> decreased a lot.
>>
>> See this as a good time to restart this project!
>>
>> 1. Andy's idea of a white/black list is a VERY good start to proceed and to
>> make this a fresh restart. Just do it.
>>
>> 2. Make a public Roadmap! Best case, make it voteable. I rather see 2
>> known-to-public well implemented features than 10 halfway coded surprises.
>>
>> 3. There are too many info channels! Close down the forum on the LinuxCNC
>> website ASAP! It doesn't work, Google can't make correct forward links and
>> some browsers fail to show it. There is an active forum at cnczone (I'll
>> fix the renaming), there's a working mailing list (also active). There is a
>> more or less dead website, the wiki is somewhat updated but still there are
>> obsolete chapters or dead links (I promise to update the wiki myself more
>> frequently in the future).
>>
>>
>> At last, I will not put any energy into a debate about right or wrong name.
>> I see this as an opportunity to make a "restart" and make this fantastic
>> system better and future secured. Many people have spent so many hours in
>> this project and we should take care of that!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sven
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