On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 05:59:58PM -0500, Kent A. Reed wrote:
> Finally, perhaps you've already addressed this, but will it be possible 
> to leave "forwarding addresses" on the old sites, at least for a time, 
> so that people directed to us by mostly old links from external sites 
> will be able to find us?

I probably didn't address this, or didn't do so clearly.

If we pursue a sourceforge renaming, then old links on sourceforge that
refer to the old project name will stop working.

If we leave the old sourceforge project, then links will continue
referring to the same thing.  Unfortunately, there is no uniform
provision to say "look in a new location for the new stuff".

So I don't see either of the options as being very good in terms of
automatically sending people who use old URLs to current, relevant
resources.  It's a choice between breaking URLs right now, or leaving
them "working" but stale until we request project deletion.


On data migration: sourceforge actually seems to be pretty good at
providing data for export (for project administrators).  Chris Radek has
investigated and found that the mailing list archives are available in
mbox format, the subscriber lists are available as flat files, and the
bug tracker information is available in an xml format.


Specific to the mailing lists:

Dreamhost says they support importing mailing list archives.  This is
via a support request, not automated via the web panel, so I haven't
tested it.

I believe gmane.org (the site I generally use when referring people to
mailing list posts via the web) can import old posts when we open new
groups to archive our new lists.  I also suspect but can't promise that
they will retain the historical posts at the same URLs as now.

If we switch to dreamhost mailman, I anticipate that a html-format
archive plus monthly "mbox" archives will be available through a web
interface, probably to the public but maybe only to subscribers.  This
is a standard mailman feature.

I personally keep full archives of the list on my home system.  These
archives could be used in case of loss of data by dreamhost.

I'm not aware of an automated way to back up the roster of subscribers,
but this can be done manually by list administrators.


Specific to the bug tracker:

There are indications that others have written sourceforge tracker xml
to bugzilla importers, but we haven't yet investigated how well they
actually work.  If there's someone who is interested in pursuing this
specific question, I don't think there's any reason that we couldn't
furnish a copy of the xml export for that purpose.

If we switch to dreamhost bugzilla, I anticipate that bug exports will
be available in bugzilla's xml format, probably to the public but maybe
only to bugzilla account holders.  This is a standard bugzilla feature.

In addition, I anticipate that a board member will regularly make
backups of the contents of the bugzilla sql database that will be stored
on a separate system, in case of data loss by dreamhost.


This got a little bit wordy, so I hope that you're still with me and
that this answered your questions.

Jeff

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