On Sat, 2012-08-04 at 19:11 -0400, Ron Ginger wrote: > On 8/4/2012 12:39 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > > Dave<e...@dc9.tzo.com> > > > > Mach3 has some huge issues to overcome - if it is even possible. The > > software is stagnant and has been for years. > > Typical situation: A user upgrades to the newest version of Mach3 and > > has a problem, states the problem on the email list and gets no > > response. Problems are not fixed and the users appear to be apathetic > > about supplying > > assistance since there is oftentimes no fix available anyway.
My, My Ron. A bit touchy aren't we. LinuxCNC like any other package has to stand on its merits. I'm continually amazed by the individuals that hit to list (emc-user or emc-dev) to get one question answered and then we never hear from them again; which suggests they are knowledgeable enough to (almost) make it work by themselves. This is really not about numbers but about enabling people from the lonely, isolated hobbyist to the guy running a shop with multiple machines to have control over the process and in many cases actually make money doing it. Mach3/4 attracts a certain type of clientèle and not necessarily the same population the linuxcnc attracts. That is just fine. That Mach3 works at all is a tribute to the original programmer. > > Dave, you just wont let it go will you. Mach is approaching 50,000 units > sold. It is not slowing, rather accelerating. More than 3/4 are OEM > sales, not hobby guys. They have work to do and dont sit around and post > on mail lists or chat rooms. And these numbers are based on dollars > spent, not surverys of mail lists. Repeat of some of the above paragraph with spelling corrected. > sold. It is not slowing, rather accelerating. More than 3/4 are OEM > sales, not hobby guys. They have work to do and don't sit around and post > on mail lists or chat rooms. And these numbers are based on dollars > spent, not surveys of mail lists. > > > They have been working on Mach4 for a very long time (4 years??) and now > > they are clearly in a game of catchup. > > Mach4, as it will ship, has only been underway since the first of this > year, and was demoed at the CNC workshop in June. It is intended the > first version, Mach-lite, will ship in September. I am working on the > Newfangled wizards for it and they are nearly ready. > > All work is being done with cross platform tools, and OEM versions will > be offered on linux and Mac. That was also shown at the workshop. Next > chance to see it will be IMTS in September. > > > > > The Mach guys would have been better off picking one hardware board set > > and developing their Mach4 software with that board set in mind. That > > would have alienated many of the existing hardware vendors but right now > > they have nothing new and problems are simply not being resolved. > > Unfortunate, especially if you are a hardware vendor for the Mach3 > > software or if you have committed a lot of time to Mach3. > > That can only be labeled bullshit. There are many hardware vendors, all > doing quite well selling their products with Mach. Some are selling more > in a month that messa ( Mesa) is selling in a year. Again, they are out there > doing business, not chatting on mail lists. > > > I hope this 'mine is bigger than yours' drivel has been amusing to you all. Relax Ron, life is too short to pick the wrong battles. i.e. talk to someone who cares. :-) Dave > > ron ginger > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
