Ron, Email below received from Brian on 8/14/2009 - V4 development had been going on for sometime by that date..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8/14/2009 on the Mach3 Yahoo Group email list... Terry didn't tell you that we where able to speed up the Probing :) There are many things that we will see befitting from this that you would NEVER think would have any effect.. The fact is that Art and I both knew that there was a major amount of time dedicated to the OpenGL and now we can tell OpenGL to bugger off if it thinks it is going to take to much time away from Mach3. I have some OEM work that I need to get done and as soon as that is finished I am going to make an other big push on V4 now that I have the darn Toolpath worked out.. and I will also start to get the Lathe screen changed over to the new way of doing it.. Feeling good that we got a chance to report something good and that we are getting there! Thanks Brian <<<<<<<<<<<<<< >>Mach4, as it will ship, has only been underway since the first of this year, Now that.. is bullshit and you know it... Sure, I know Mach4 development has been restarted a couple of times, but don't tell me that the current rev is a complete rewrite since Jan.. >>They have work to do and dont sit around and post on mail lists or chat rooms. And these numbers are based on dollars spent, not surverys of mail lists.<< I've been working 60+ hours per week on 3 different contracts.. yet we both had time to write some commentary. >>It is intended the first version, Mach-lite, will ship in September. Good.. I am looking forward to it. But, as you know, Mach3 V4 has missed more than a couple of ship dates, (Don't prompt me to retrieve further emails....) so if Sept. comes and goes and it doesn't ship, no one will go into shock... ;-) >>That can only be labeled bullshit. There are many hardware vendors, all doing quite well selling their products with Mach. Some are selling more in a month that messa is selling in a year. Again, they are out there doing business, not chatting on mail lists. << No, that is an opinion. And you missed my point. Brian and crew have spent a lot of time trying to be everything to everyone and I'm not so sure that is possible in the current environment. By being everything to everyone, Brian dilutes his resources to the point where nothing gets done/finished. (My proof - 4 years working on Mach3 V4) He would be better off doing a Mach3 V4 LPT port version with Arts driver and an Ethernet Smoothstepper version so something works really well out of the box and then start supporting everyone else. Maybe that is really the plan anyway.. I'm not in a position to know. >>Some are selling more in a month that messa is selling in a year. I seriously doubt that. But what does that matter? >>I hope this 'mine is bigger than yours' drivel has been amusing to you all. Proof again that you missed my points. Oh well. Hang in there Ron, I know it has been a rough ride, but I sincerely hope that Mach3 V4 materializes as there are places were I may be able to use it. It has been frustrating as a user to watch Mach3 stagnate and wither. I am sure as an involved developer, the frustration has been even greater. Dave On 8/4/2012 7:11 PM, Ron Ginger wrote: > On 8/4/2012 12:39 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > >> Dave<e...@dc9.tzo.com> >> >> Mach3 has some huge issues to overcome - if it is even possible. The >> software is stagnant and has been for years. >> Typical situation: A user upgrades to the newest version of Mach3 and >> has a problem, states the problem on the email list and gets no >> response. Problems are not fixed and the users appear to be apathetic >> about supplying >> assistance since there is oftentimes no fix available anyway. >> > Dave, you just wont let it go will you. Mach is approaching 50,000 units > sold. It is not slowing, rather accelerating. More than 3/4 are OEM > sales, not hobby guys. They have work to do and dont sit around and post > on mail lists or chat rooms. And these numbers are based on dollars > spent, not surverys of mail lists. > > >> They have been working on Mach4 for a very long time (4 years??) and now >> they are clearly in a game of catchup. >> > Mach4, as it will ship, has only been underway since the first of this > year, and was demoed at the CNC workshop in June. It is intended the > first version, Mach-lite, will ship in September. I am working on the > Newfangled wizards for it and they are nearly ready. > > All work is being done with cross platform tools, and OEM versions will > be offered on linux and Mac. That was also shown at the workshop. Next > chance to see it will be IMTS in September. > > >> The Mach guys would have been better off picking one hardware board set >> and developing their Mach4 software with that board set in mind. That >> would have alienated many of the existing hardware vendors but right now >> they have nothing new and problems are simply not being resolved. >> Unfortunate, especially if you are a hardware vendor for the Mach3 >> software or if you have committed a lot of time to Mach3. >> > That can only be labeled bullshit. There are many hardware vendors, all > doing quite well selling their products with Mach. Some are selling more > in a month that messa is selling in a year. Again, they are out there > doing business, not chatting on mail lists. > > > I hope this 'mine is bigger than yours' drivel has been amusing to you all. > > ron ginger > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. 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